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  1. BreadOfLife

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    WRONG. Works are a REQUIREMENT of faith – not just as after-effect. James rives this point home in chapter 2 of his Epistle over and over again. They are as must a basic element of faith as 1+1 equals 2. James, undet the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, tells his readers that you CANNOT have...
  2. BreadOfLife

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    You’re missing the entire point of Rom. 8 – which corresponds with John 10:28. NOBODY or NOTHING can take you away from God and MAKEyou lose your salvation. Only YOUcan make that choice – and that’s exactly what it is, a CHOICE. The verses from Matt., Mark and Luke aren’t speaking of a person...
  3. BreadOfLife

    "Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Faith" - Has 500 Years Taught Us Nothing?

    I never simply "deny" without brining actual evidence to the table. If evidence ti the contrary offends you - then I can't help you, sparky . . .
  4. BreadOfLife

    "Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Faith" - Has 500 Years Taught Us Nothing?

    Then I eagerly await a post from ANYBODY who is willing to do YOUR homework, my lazy, dishonest friend.
  5. BreadOfLife

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    The basis of MOST of our dialog on this thread has been the false, man made doctrine of Eternal Security or "OSAS". I have shown that the context of Scripture does NOT support this fallacy. Cherry-picking Scripture is the ONLY way you can produce any sort of "evidence" for it. Unfortunately...
  6. BreadOfLife

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    No - they were disobedient - or verse 21 makes absolutely ZERO sense. Their works were not done for God's glory - but for theirs. Don't just QUOTE the Bible. LEARN what it means . . .
  7. BreadOfLife

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    That is complete hogwash and NOT what the Bible teaches. Jesus said that is you want to be HIS disciple - you must pick up your cross DAILY and follow Him (Matt. 16:24, Luke 9:23). Scripture ALSO teaches that we must . . . - Be baptized (Matt. 28:19-20, Mark 6:16, John 3:5, Rom. 2:29, Rom...
  8. BreadOfLife

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    On the CONTRARY - I am reading them IN CONTEXT with the rest of Scripture and no cherry-picking them as YOU do.
  9. BreadOfLife

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    What an IGNORANT statement. Do you even understand what "Apostate" means?? An apostate is a person who repudiates a once deeply-held belief. A person who turns his back on his beliefs. In other words - you CANNOT be an "Apostate" if you were NOT born again to begin with.
  10. BreadOfLife

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    AGAIN with the cherry-picking. AGAIN with the complete ignoring pf other verses. ALL Scripture must harmonize or it is ALL a lie. ALL SCRIPTURE. The CONTEXT of Scripture tells us that Christ MAKES us righteous before entering Heaven. This is the process of sanctification. We START the...
  11. BreadOfLife

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    Christ doesn't "impute" His righteousness on us - He MAKES us righteous (James 5:17, Rom. 5:1-11). We CANNOT enter Heaven :"disguised" as Luther put it "snow-covered dunghills". God is NOT an idiot and His sacred Word states explicitly that NOTHING impure or imperfect can enter (Rev. 21:27).
  12. BreadOfLife

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    Correct. Nobody COMES to faith against their will and nobody STAYS against their will. We have a free will to do BOTH - and sometimes people leave . . . No - not in the CONTEXT of Scripture. AGAIN - your cherry-picking gets you nowhere because there are too many other verses that say just the...
  13. BreadOfLife

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    Romans 10:9 is a FIRST step - NOT the end. Matt. 7:21 talks about those who depended on Rom. 10:9 and weren't obedient. Jesus said that we must DO THE WILL of the Father.
  14. BreadOfLife

    "Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Faith" - Has 500 Years Taught Us Nothing?

    Are you STILL whining about things you can't prove?? I've given you almost TWO MONTHS to prove your moronic accusations - and you failed every time. Besides - I'm not a "Papist" - I'm a Catholic, Einstein. Get a life, already . . .
  15. BreadOfLife

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    Not at ALL. Works (obedience) are an essential element of faith (Matt. 7:21, James 2:14-26). It is not a "result" of faith. 1 + 1 = 2 2 + 2 = 4 Belief + Works = FAITH
  16. BreadOfLife

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    Easy-believism is what YOU and the others here preach. All you have to do is "believe" - but, that's NOT what the Bible teaches. BIBLICAL faith includes . . . - Being baptized (Matt. 28:19-20, John 3:5, Rom. 2:29, Rom. 6:1-11, Col. 2:12-17, 1 Peter 3:21) - Picking up our cross daily to follow...
  17. BreadOfLife

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    I'm defending Biblical truth - period.
  18. BreadOfLife

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    You and @justbyfaith suffer from the same deficiency. NEITHER of you understands the CONTEXT of Scripture. You bother cherry-pick verses that seem to contradict each other and build doctrines around the ones yu agree with while rationalizing the others that seem to reject your position. You...
  19. BreadOfLife

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    That doesn't mean I'm wrong. If you had bothered to read just 2 verses further - you would have seen that the Bible says that those works that I do were prepared FOR me by GOD (Eph.) 2:10). Don't just QUOTE the Bible - LEARN what it means . . .
  20. BreadOfLife

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    That all depends on what YOU define as “Faith”. If, by “Faith”, you mean that we are saved by our belief in Christ and h\His promises – that is NOT supported by Scripture. As a matter of fact – the ONLY place you will find the phrase “Faith alone” (Sola Fide) in ALL of Scripture is in James...