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    First the Rapture and then the Great Tribulations

    It's called following men's traditions. The post-trib theology has traditions within it too that don't exactly align with God's Word either. The birds-eye view though, is that this kind of confusion of following men's traditions upon many is ordained to occur. The OT prophets reveal it, even as...
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    First the Rapture and then the Great Tribulations

    But does anyone understand what our Lord Jesus was teaching with those Scripture examples?
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    First the Rapture and then the Great Tribulations

    Luke 17:35 35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left. (KJV) You appear to not understand what our Lord Jesus was teaching with the above verse either. Maybe this next example will further clarify... Matt 24:45-47 45 Who then is a faithful and wise...
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    what the early church fathers taught about the pre trib rapture

    You're right, John Darby wasn't the first to believe the pre-trib rapture theory. He got it from Edward Irving in 1830's Britain. Text of Pseudo-Ephraim, revealing the real text attributed to the Syrian Ephraim had a Post-tribulational stance, not a pre-trib rapture stance: "...He will effect...
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    what the early church fathers taught about the pre trib rapture

    Cyprian - ""...the day of affliction has begun to hang over our heads, and the end of the world and the time of Antichrist to draw near, so that we must all stand prepared for the battle..." That doesn't show a pre-trib rapture. See this link for the below quote from Dave MacPherson who well...
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    Mind of the Spirit / Mind of the Flesh

    I see that attachment now brother. Thanks. That idea is contrary to what Paul was saying in the Romans 7 chapter, about finding himself doing what he would not. Paul was simply revealing how we all... fall short of the glory of God and His Christ. Thus we having "a walk that is identical with...
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    Mind of the Spirit / Mind of the Flesh

    That concept is much easier to understand if it's put in terms that God's Word actually uses, i.e., the separation between Spirit and flesh. They are two different things. Apostle Paul actually set forth that separation in the previous Romans 6 chapter... Rom 6:5-10 5 For if we have been...
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    First the Rapture and then the Great Tribulations

    Our Lord Jesus told you what we're supposed to be doing all the way up to the day of His return... one of His answers to that is here... Luke 17:35 35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left. (KJV)
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    Hell Is Not The Lake of Fire

    If it were true that I'm speaking falsehood about this, then why does God's Word reveal that the abode of "hell" will be cast into... the "lake of fire"? Duh! Rev 20:14 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. (KJV) The word "hell" there is Greek...
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    Right Hand of God's Throne

    I don't think less of people who hold to traditions fomented by theologians. It's those who foment those traditions that I dislike. I don't even hate them, but what they do. I've never called you a heretic, nor have I ever said you're going to hell. I feel that you do love The LORD, and I do...
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    TIGER BY THE TAIL

    'Continue what we've been doing, lest we make things worse.' That's the standard reaction to a nation's economy that's gone into Hper-Inflation mode. The next phase is.. inevitable. Economic collapse, and end of the U.S. dollar. Yet that's the plan, as I've been warning the brethren a long time...
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    Biblical Literalism

    Indeed; that's one of the most important lessons on the matter.
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    Abraham

    Where in the world did you get that idea? Is that what Judaism is teaching today? Gen 22:13-18 13 And Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold behind him a ram caught in a thicket by his horns: and Abraham went and took the ram, and offered him up for a burnt offering in the stead...
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    Blood vs. Bones

    I'm not concerned with what you get tired of. Yeah, that word 'carnal' is in the KJV Bible isn't it? Should be easy for those who see it to know exactly how I mean it then! except maybe those like yourself who evidently didn't understand it even there in Romans by Paul. You can lie to...
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    First the Rapture and then the Great Tribulations

    Just as the children of Israel while in Egypt didn't go anywhere when God worked the plagues upon Egypt through Moses, likewise, we are not going anywhere during the tribulation either. Our LORD was able then, and He still is able to protect us on earth today all the way to the end. We are to be...
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    The Lake of Fire

    Yep! The manuscript word there is 'geena' (valley of Hinnom), put for the future "lake of fire" event of Rev.20. Here's another example... Rev 14:10-11 10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of His indignation; and he shall...
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    The Lake of Fire

    Why does it matter whether there's a literal place in the heavenly where the wicked dead go? You've got to be kidding. Warning the unbeliever about that place, and the final destruction in the lake of fire is one of the Biblical ideas we're supposed be preaching, including to Christ's...
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    Biblical Literalism

    Just to clarify what I meant. When I speak of God's Word being literal, I mean that even the usage of symbols, metaphors, allegories, and parables are always about some literal thing or literal Truth. The goal is to understand the 'meaning' and 'sense' of how The LORD uses those things to convey...
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    What Should A Person Do If They Miss The Rapture ?

    I believe that about Christ's coming and our gathering on 7th last trump to Him too, I just choose not to use the word 'rapture' because of how it's used and abused by the Pre-trib Rapture school. It's not a word in Scripture anyway. The Greek word 'harpazo' is the word, and it means to be...