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So miles of hostility by those on the pre-trib rapture theory against those who are post-trib doesn't count? Just goes one more to show how that many on the pre-trib rapture theory are full of themselves. I've even in person encountered brethren on the pre-trib theory that wanted to fight me...

Happy Pesach (Passover) to you to. I very much adhere to the Greek 'harpazo' idea which Apostle Paul preached. I prefer to not use the word 'rapture' because it's not a word used in the KJV Bible for that event, and because it's a word used and abused by the pre-trib secret rapture school. In...

I'm going to give examples of the difference with staying in a Bible chapter's context, and contrast that against not staying in the chapter's context. The idea of 'context' is about words or phrases that continue to relate to the subject. For example: if the subject is electrical motors...

This is not about one of us trying to 'win' an argument. I don't play such games. This matter is about whether one desires to 'stay' within the Scripture as written or not, instead of taking it out of context of the chapter it's written in. You've done the very same error that mark s did...

No such 'rapture' idea written in that Rev.3 Scripture anyway. It's nothing more than spiritual blindness trying to wedge an idea of physical escape into that written Scripture. Obviously, being kept from the hour of temptation is not declaring anything about physical escape. James 1:12 12...

Did our Heavenly Father really forsake our Lord Jesus upon the cross? It would appear that's exactly... what some want us to think. Here's what our Lord Jesus said while suffering upon the cross... Matt 27:46 46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, Eli...

No, I refuse to bite on such ignorance as your skipping the previous 8 verses in 1 Thess.5 just to jump on a bunch of doctrines of men about that sole 9th verse. Doing that isn't just ignorance, it is showing a willingness to DECEIVE OTHERS HERE ALSO!! That's right, I think you well heard me...

So you accidently left out the Matt.24:31 verse? Is that what you want us to believe? OK, let's say it was an accident, how does it 'change' your whole theory you've presented with this, for it most definitely does? Let's see... Both of the following Matt.24:31 and Mark 13:27 Scriptures are...

JLB's question I was referring to is of the 3 Scripture examples he gave about the 'gathering' of the saints to Jesus Christ. Your response to that 'suggests' you do not... agree all 3 of those examples are about the same event of Christ gathering His Church at His coming. Your answer only...

It's also important to note that in Matt.24, Christ is giving specific endtime ordered events. They actually are the Seals of Revelation 6. But in the Matt.25 chapter, He is giving parables about the Kingdom involving both those of His Church, and the rebellious. Matt.25 is not a prophetic...

You've skipped just enough to make what you presented sound... feasible. Let me begin with the worst error you made, the skipping of the Matt.24:31 verse and your quick move to Matt.25 about separation of sheep/goats being only about Israel. All 3 below verses are timed together: Matt...

Follow the flow? You have given no... flow of Scripture, only doctrines of men. So the previous 8 verses of what Paul covered before that 9th verse mean nothing to you??? That's a plain example of not willing to stay in God's Word as written. Deception is assurred when one does that. That...

I'd like hear a straight answer to JLB's question to you. It's a valid question, and shouldn't move you from your current positoin to answer it. A simple "Yes, there are trumpets..." is not a valid answer to it. What are "exclusionary facts"? Do you mean 'secrets' that we as believers on...

It would appear you understand what they're doing with moving the control of the wealth into their hands, and out of the people's pockets, even though for them to do it they know it weakens the dollar. The paper fiat system is a hoax, on all counts. The money powers well know it, which begs...

The marks of Christianity is in the writings of the founding fathers, and it was even declared in many U.S. State Constitutions. But that's not what makes the United States a Christian Nation. What does is God's people who follow Him through His Son Jesus Christ, and God's Promises to His people...

I really don't see differences with their generations of time as changing any... of the order or type of events written in God's Word for the end. That kind of info they had then, just as we do today. The only differences I see, is how today, we can see more of the finer details like you said...

That "wrath" which Paul mentioned in that 1 Thess.5 is 'confined' to the prophetic parameters he was giving there. Taking that 'wrath' out of that chapter's context is why many are confused about which 'wrath' that is, especially the time of its occurance. I can assure you, it is not... about...

I don't have any problem understanding how the early Church fathers, especially of the 1st - 2nd centuries, were agreed about the Antichrist coming first with a time of great tribulation upon the saints, and then Christ's coming and our gathering after that. When they spoke of great trials and...

We need to beware of the slogan doctors. Slogan doctors are the same thing as 'spin doctors', the difference being usage of Scripture to come up with one-liner type slogans instead of advertising lingo. If your pastor is claiming to preach from 1 Thess.5, and then spouts rapture traditions...

And the "last Adam" idea of 1 Cor.15 is about our Lord Jesus in Heaven, His Resurrection. Our resurrection is still yet to come when He returns. 1 Cor 15:43-49 43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 44 It is sown a natural body...