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I asked this before and received an answer from @Enoch111 Could YOU also tell me why you believe it's important for Peter NOT to be the rock? Jesus did call him Cephas which means Rock. Peter means Rock. I understand that catholics would want him to be the rock upon which the church was...

By the law, I always mean the 10 commandments. We are required to keep them --- and by keep I don't mean perfectly like some understand. We will always be sinning. But you see...your last sentence is the problem I see with this new thinking. We DO please God by trying to keep the law. God has...

By the Covenant of the 10 Commandments you mean the Mosaic Covenant. Correct. The Mosaic Covenant was conditional on the Israelites keeping the 10 commandments and observing the Sabbath because that was the "sign" of that covenant. It was a bi-lateral Covenant: Both God and Man made the...

What kind of Christian tells someone to do something that person believes to be a sin??? If @gadar perets believes he is not to eat certain meats and believes God told him not to...then so be it. For HIM eating that meat would be a sin. Romans 14:12-23 12So then each one of us will give an...

You said being born again separates you from the law. How is a born again person separated from the law? WHAT law? I believe that making such statements is rather dangerous. I've been listening to YouTube lately and one preacher on there said we could sin all we want and still be saved. I...

Of course they have different roles,,,but there is only ONE ROCK. The others are "small" rocks, just like Peter's name means small stone. Too late... Tomorrow.

Agreed.

Then why is it so important for the CC to want PETER to be "the rock"? The CC does not teach that Peter is THE ROCK,,,it teaches that Jesus is the rock. If Jesus is the rock...then how could Peter ALSO be the rock? I've always believed it has to do with Peter being the "first pope".

It's always made me wonder, then, why PAUL wrote most of the N.T. He WAS the intellect of the group...

I don't believe they were able to do what Peter did. If anyone built the church, I'd say Paul did. I'm sorry my thoughts aren't straight on this so I'll just read along. Jesus is the rock. Peter was supposed to be the head of the church (small c). I'm thinking of Acts 1:14 and on. Peter...

So? John was at the foot of the cross, he was the youngest and was not afraid. We can't really know why, it's all conjecture. James became head of the church in Jerusalem. Peter went all the way to Rome and it's accepted that he was the head of the church in Rome. Why does the fact that he...

Yes, I know this...I misspoke.

Peter was the leader of the Apostles. This is known. Jesus knew Peter would forsake Him,,,He told him so,,,it was due to fear and not because he wanted to desert Jesus. He forsook him in word only but not in heart.

Wait. On which false teaching....that PETER is the rock and not Jesus? They know Jesus is the rock... They do this because they want Peter to be the first "pope".

I don't need scripture! But post it for others if you wish. On Him the solid rock I stand, All other ground is shifting sand. (and many more) Interesting point about Peter. Yes, I'd have to agree. Thanks for the reply.

Just thinking here. Jesus is the foundation of our faith. He's the foundation of the building...He's the corner stone. But that's not enough. A human church (small c) also needs humans to get it running and keep it running. If there was no one to run a church,,,it would just stop...

I think we're fishing! Why would Jesus have said first "you are Peter"??

There's one thing I'd like to understand, as a Protestant. What DIFFERENCE does it make if Jesus meant the rock to be Peter? I've never understood this and I've been protestant for about 35 years or so. We know that Peter could not have been the first pope because there was no such thing back...

If you eat a REAL chicken, all you have to put on it is some salt...but there aren't too many of those around over here either. Some tasty memories came back...

That goes without saying. Every promise God made to us WITHOUT OUR BEING INVOLVED... (Adamic Covenant, Abrahamic Covenant, Davidic Covenant, New Covenant) HE WILL certainly keep. THIS is what is meant in 2 Timothy 2:12-13 NOT what many believe it means...that even if we are faithless to God...