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  1. GodsGrace

    Eternal Security

    @Jane_Doe22 has perfectly answered you for me. Saving me the typing. "Not MY will but THINE be done" means Jesus had free will and He chose God's will for Him and not His own. God can tell us what He would have us to do...but it's up to us to choose to do it. Philemon 1:14 He was saved. He...
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    Who or What Is the Fire Burning?

    Ye are God's building. OK. All Christians are God's building. OK. It says this in verse 16. We are the temple of God. BUT "We are laborers together with God",,,here you're adding to scripture. Paul was saying that HE and APOLLOS are laborers for God. Of course we all are....but it is not...
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    Who or What Is the Fire Burning?

    And who's to decide what true bible doctrine is? Us? We can't even decide what 1 Corinthians means and I've posted commentaries and even one from Mathew Henry! I agree that by their fruits we shall know them. But, for instance, I don't care for Calvinism, and yet I respect those that go to...
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    Back When Protestants Men Weren't The Gutless Wonders Of Today

    I agree. Churches water down the gospel message to love, love and more love. Which is true. But what about the justice, as you've said. What about having a place to go where we're shielded from the ideas of the world? Where we could fraternize with those who believe the same as we do? No...
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    Back When Protestants Men Weren't The Gutless Wonders Of Today

    I don't know what YEOVIL would mean... But, anyway, believe me, there won't be one near me. I'd ask you to find out, but I'm 99% sure it'll be very far away even if there is one.
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    Back When Protestants Men Weren't The Gutless Wonders Of Today

    Right! Never even thought of this. Rock music in churches could definitely be idol worship. Are the words listened to or is the music listened to?? Great point.
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    Back When Protestants Men Weren't The Gutless Wonders Of Today

    Ha! I think it's already too late! I watched a rather horrifying video on youtube. Couldn't believe it was real ... thought it was fake news. So I looked it up in the Italian site. Turns out it was real and covered as it was happening back in 2016. It's the inauguration of the Gotthard Tunnel...
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    Back When Protestants Men Weren't The Gutless Wonders Of Today

    Great idea. It also gets children involved...they'll remember this forever. We seen to go from one extreme to the other. What churches I've seen in Europe! But in our churches, it's like we're afraid to make them too beautiful -- this is wrong too. Everything adds to life. I think you must...
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    Back When Protestants Men Weren't The Gutless Wonders Of Today

    I'd say that some unknowledgeable catholics might, maybe, bow down to some statue, but I'm not in their mind to know what they're thinking. They're not SUPPOSED to venerate the statue, but who knows. The younger crowd knows more about these things. In protestantism we have no such...
  10. GodsGrace

    Who or What Is the Fire Burning?

    LOL And then how do you trust yourself? Are you not a Man?
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    Back When Protestants Men Weren't The Gutless Wonders Of Today

    You're a very nice person and agreeable, but not everyone is like that, especially those in high places that are after power and used to it. I just think it's all very interesting and am waiting to see what happens.
  12. GodsGrace

    Back When Protestants Men Weren't The Gutless Wonders Of Today

    But let's not forget that the Greeks and Babylonians also made statues. He wanted Christians to worship the ONE Good that they did not know. They had the statue to the Unknown God. I'm not against statues aslong as it's understood that we don't don't veneratethe statue. You're totally against...
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    Back When Protestants Men Weren't The Gutless Wonders Of Today

    OK Amadeus, but then why isn't this happening naturally? Why will it take men agreeing to bring this about?
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    Back When Protestants Men Weren't The Gutless Wonders Of Today

    Funny Willie. Remember the communes back in the 60s? Did they work out? Why not? Because they were made up of humans! No, there Must be a leader, or it won't work.
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    Back When Protestants Men Weren't The Gutless Wonders Of Today

    I agree except for the veneration of stone idols. When you add incorrect facts to true facts, it kind of waters down the true facts.
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    Back When Protestants Men Weren't The Gutless Wonders Of Today

    Who's going to rule? The Catholics or the protestants? Which Protestants? The Pope believes he's the leader of All Christian's since the cc is the one,true church. I dont see how this could possibly function.
  17. GodsGrace

    Who or What Is the Fire Burning?

    If you've been reading along, you'll know what I believe about your post. In Mathew 28:16-20 Jesus is speaking to the APOSTLES. 16But the eleven disciples proceeded to Galilee, to the mountain which Jesus had designated. 17When they saw Him, they worshiped Him; but some were doubtful. 18And...
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    Who or What Is the Fire Burning?

    Yes, I'm referring to N.T. Wright. I chose one from each category of Christianity: Catholic Protestant Reformed So now you're saying to beware false teaches...which is what 1 Corinthians is speaking about...incorrect doctrine or "works". You may not agree with the 3 I've chosen, but you...
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    Who or What Is the Fire Burning?

    Enoch, we're discussing 1 Corinthians 3:5-17 Where in THESE verses is the transition from Paul and Apollos to US, the believers?? We need other scripture when supporting a doctrine or idea... here we're trying only to understand these specific verses; all that is needed is context.
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    Who or What Is the Fire Burning?

    If we really want to get into this, let's do it. You say other followers of Christ build on this foundation. Do they do a good job of it? Do we edify each other? Do we tear each other down? There's a new Christian with many questions. Do we have all the answers? Are we ultimately...