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  1. GodsGrace

    If We Protestants Truly Hated Catholics...

    Augustine. Ditto. I bring it up only because I disagree with him and he made some nice problems for Christianity which we're dealing with these days. Anyway, I don't care to derail. Early Augustine Mid Augustine Late Augustine which one to believe??
  2. GodsGrace

    Who or What Is the Fire Burning?

    In that case, I see no reason to answer your post...even though I disagree with all of it.
  3. GodsGrace

    Eternal Security

    Thanks BoL. I believe experiential is the key word. We can know ABOUT books, but until we hold one we don't really understand what it is. It's important to understand this word. The greek word KNOW as is used in the bible would be epignosis. And why gnosticism is not Christianly...because mere...
  4. GodsGrace

    Who or What Is the Fire Burning?

    Hi BG, Sorry for the delay...been busy. I'm not ignoring you! It's not how I read it. I don't make up my own ideas on scripture...it happens to be how most theologians interpret these verses. I don't really understand what you mean by "works that are not ordered of the Lord". Any good...
  5. GodsGrace

    Eternal Security

    What is epignosis?
  6. GodsGrace

    Who or What Is the Fire Burning?

    I've already responded to this post, but just noticed something you've said above. I NEVER said I'm a teacher of the bible! I know what it is to teach this and I certainly am not one of them. What I have said is that I've taught kids our faith. And I also don't appreciate your saying I "claim"...
  7. GodsGrace

    Eternal Security

    So Paul didn't know what he was talking about in Hebrews 6:4-6 or 2 Peter 2:20-22? He's speaking in these verses about someone who KNEW the joy of the Lord and then walked away. In Hebrews he's exhorting the Jews not to walk away. Why all this exhortation if we're always going to be sons...
  8. GodsGrace

    Eternal Security

    Great question. Certainly RT doesn't believe that HE determines who is truly a believer. It's the old idea that if one is "truly" saved he will never walk away. You know, they weren't really saved to begin with. This necessarily means that those with this idea KNOW who is saved and who isn't...
  9. GodsGrace

    Who or What Is the Fire Burning?

    part 2 of 2 I agree except for WHO these verses are speaking of. They aren't speaking of us Christians doing the works,,,but of the ministers of God. Also, when I had studied this I found that fire in verse 13 was referring to Jesus. Elliot's Commentary (13) Revealed by fire.—Better...
  10. GodsGrace

    Who or What Is the Fire Burning?

    Hi Oz, I've studied the following in different bibles and for a good reason. When I was Catholic I was taught that this referred to purgatory; we are judged but escape as through fire. When I left the CC, I studied a little every doctrine I didn't agree with to make sure that in my own mind I...
  11. GodsGrace

    Eternal Security

    Why do you ask this? Yes. Because after we die we go to be where we'll be spending eternity. If we have the life of Jesus in us, we go to be with Him, If we've been serving the enemy, we go to be with him. John 3:16 We will not have a will in heaven. Our will will be perfectly aligned with...
  12. GodsGrace

    Eternal Security

    Is this your first forum? We don't speak to one person here....just say what you want to say and it could even be specifically to one person. But anyone can answer and join in. Just say what you want to say! We all have the privilege of reading along...! :)
  13. GodsGrace

    Eternal Security

    I've been trying to tell Rollo this for years now. If we cannot LEAVE GOD after we become saved, it means we have lost our free will. And the entire bible assures us that we DO have free will. Which means we could leave God, if we so chose to. Because most, or the large majority, of Christians...
  14. GodsGrace

    Who or What Is the Fire Burning?

    So you believe it is also speaking of OUR works. Could you please show me how you come to this conclusion? (1 Corinthians 3:5-17)
  15. GodsGrace

    Who or What Is the Fire Burning?

    Hi Aspen, You quoted above that our "false self" is being burned up. What is our false self?
  16. GodsGrace

    Depression

    Ha! I don't want to be alive down here forever. But, while I'm here, I'd LOVE not to be depressed. If God can help me, fine. If I need a pill, fine. If I have a headache I'll take a pill... etc. I don't think persons that want to heal necessarily want to live forever. Been hearing about some...
  17. GodsGrace

    Who or What Is the Fire Burning?

    In 1 Corinthians 3 Paul is speaking to the Corinthians about ministers. Please read it again...
  18. GodsGrace

    Depression

    How far back would you like to go? Do you have a daughter? Maybe she could birth her baby without an epidural? Maybe someone could have their leg cut off without anesthesia? Maybe my husband would already be dead from Parkinson's? What are you saying Stranger??
  19. GodsGrace

    Who or What Is the Fire Burning?

    Good try. Is Paul speaking to the Romans the whole time?? No. He stops in chapters 9, 10 and 11 to speak to his fellow Jews.
  20. GodsGrace

    Depression

    I agree. In the meantime, let's thank God we have them. I wouldn't want to go back 100 years when many drugs were not available.