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I checked out your link. What does it have to do with eternal security?

It's exactly the issue! On Earth there are no free lunches. In heaven, everything is free. In God's Kingdom everything is free. BTW, no one I know of believes works save. However,,,faith without works is a dead faith. If we have the Holy Spirit in us, we become excited about doing everything...

The rules of Earth and the rules of heaven, come from two different rule books. No use trying to compare them. God's ways are not our ways....

Hi BR, So far you're the only one that agrees with me. I mentioned purgatory because catholics use 1 Corinthians 3:15 as a proof test for it. We protestants also don't seem to understand it. I hear many times that OUR works are being burned up because they're not correct works or something...

Oh Helen, These posts gave me a good laugh! And look what a good job BC did...he must have a photo shop program. Lucky him. Amazing what Christians can do when they get together and put their mind to it!

Not joking T, Europe is an atheist continent and getting worse every day. And, it seems the further north one goes, the worse it gets. So if we have someone here from Sweden, we should be thankful to God that they were sent here to fellowship with other Christians. Some up north don't even have...

You know too much! I never heard of the above, but I know it's not true. Jesus was always depicted on a stake with a cross beam,,,that's why it's called a cross. And was from the beginning, as church history shows. What I'm trying to understand is WHY the WTS would think this is so important...

This is NOT a doctrine. This is exegesis. Do you suppose these verses in 1 Corinthians refer to purgatory? Catholics do. Exegesis is important...it helps us to understand what we're reading.

I agree. But this is not what we're discussing here.

I don't want to derail my own thread. What you mentioned above are works of the law,,,Paul said they are DEAD works because they do not save but are only ritual. This is the part of the law that Jesus DID come to abolish. What work is in the "power of man" that claims to be of God? Every work...

Grams, BoL said what you're referring to on July 14!! You're just getting around to this? I almost scolded him!! This is very old stuff....

Verse 13 is referring to the workers in verse 5 and 6...Paul and Apollo. It's referring to those who build upon what Paul and Apollo began...and what did they begin? They laid the foundation which is Christ. verse 10 And ANOTHER is building upon it. Bldg upon the foundation which is...

2 Timothy 2.....? Verse 15 says to be a diligent workman approved by God... This speaks to workmen too. I'm not sure to what you're referring with the "ministry" thing where Paul's ministry is being judged. I'm NOT referring specifically to this. I AM saying that it's speaking about those who...

Hi E A dead work is really not how you explained it above. Hebrews is a letter that was written to the Jews of Jesus's time. Dead works are works of the Law...works done under the Law and not under grace. The Jews were used to doing things to try to please God...that was the Mosaic...

Agreed. Here are the verses: 13each man’s work will become evident; for the day will show it because it is to be revealed with fire, and the fire itself will test the quality of each man’s work. 14If any man’s work which he has built on it remains, he will receive a reward. If we look at...

No problem. It's nice to know that there are still some Christians in Sweden. I worry for all of Europe... :)

That's the whole point GP Jesus is the Word of God. God has thoughts, these thoughts are HIS WORD. If you can say that Yeshua existed in Yaweh's mind until it was time for Yeshua to be manifested in the flesh, then you're agreeing that the WORD of God, Yahweh, existed from the beginning...

Please post the verse where it states that dead works are being burned up. And what ARE dead works??

Could you please tell us who or what you believe is being burned up in the following verses... 1 Corinthians 3:8-15 8Now he who plants and he who waters are one; but each will receive his own reward according to his own labor. 9For we are God’s fellow workers; you are God’s field, God’s...

Hey ZZ Welcome to the forum... I understand what you're talking about. I've never seen The Passion of The Christ. I do, however, wear a cross all the time. It's a nice witness and it let's people know what I believe. So many atheists these days. But I respect how you feel too. I understood...