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its just terms the holy spirit coming in or being poured out on you is an anointing You being baptized by God is the baptism.. they are two different events. think of the holy oil being poured on the OT priests to anoint them.. this happened after the blood was shed to cleans them

slow down? Sorry my friend. i do not trust an english bible completely. And there are some words than can mean many different things, and the only way we can see the truth is to look at the greek. The bible was not written in english

excuse me sir. what kind of rampage are you on? avoid the greek? That is nonsense

excuse me sir. what kind of rampage are you on? avoid the greek? That is nonsense

I can look it up. what words are you looking for?

yes 1 cor 12 is the baptism of the spirit thank you But the HS coming into or on you is the anointing. those are two different works of the HS in our salvation.

if your sins are cleansed your forgiven. No one is holy according to the law. but we can be holy (set apart) in our walk.. but the sin issue must be taken care of first. that is why we must be born again

if we were holy, he would not need to die. the blood was for our redemption. the forgiveness of sin. Ephesians 1:7 In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace

You can look to lev 16, But I will highlite some verses here Lev 16: 6 “Aaron shall offer the bull as a sin offering, which is for himself, and make atonement for himself and for his house. 11 “And Aaron shall bring the bull of the sin offering, which is for himself, and make atonement for...

sorry, I meant what happened to you that caused your sins to be forgiven? in the OT. A sacrifice had to be given. Did someone make a sacrifice for your past sins?

can you show this in John 3?

I was asking about this statement Jesus saw that he man was living a double life which caused his problems. He would have been constantly watching his tongue amongst the other Jews and even more so when he was a leader. What a terrible life!

yes, The high priest only gave termporary once a year. Christ died once. for all time. That is later in the chapter though

how. what happened? Sorry I ask so many questions

Is this not the anointing (coming on or in) of the HS and not the baptism. I think alot of people get this confused.

Again, can we try to keep denomination talk out of this. I want this to be an open thread where we look at what people see and discuss it.. Not talk about what men long since dead had to say about it. Thank you :)

did you mean the first coming? edit. sorry, I misred you, forgive me, i see what your saying now..

can we please try to get away with this type of discussion..

I like this, thank you

so we have to become bankrupt in spirit. and be as the tax collector. to call out to God?