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There's an easy way to settle the matter about how the real cloven tongue manifests. It involves the example of Acts 2, when EVERYONE present heard the very dialect of the town or village they were born being spoken. In 1 Cor.12 through 14, Apostle Paul was speaking about known languages of the...

Certain usage of the term 'rapture' automatically makes a false assumption from the start, simply because of its popular usage used by the Pre-trib School and doctrinists. As a matter of fact, they try to correct others who label their Pre-trib theory as the 'secret rapture', claiming that...

God's Holy Writ was given by and through The Holy Spirit, so the true cloven tongue spoken on Pentecost is not going to ever... contradict God's Holy Writ, for that would be The Holy Spirit contradicting Himself. Yet that's exactly what some do when they interpret one speaking in tongues with...

It's hard to believe that a professed Christian could hold to such beliefs as those Phillip, for our Heavenly Father and His Son, the Apostles and prophets, all... declare an earthly Kingdom of the world yet to come, and not one of this present world. The ONLY ones trying to profess that God's...

1 Tim 4:1-2 1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; (KJV) Will you continue to falsely infer those Paul...

Choose what you will, but you're not going to fool anyone here with the doctrines of men that you follow, and have tried to push here.

You certainly don't show it by denying what he wrote there in Timothy about those who depart from the Faith.

Try and prove it. So far, you've only been giving opinion.

That's the very reason why... you don't understand what Paul wrote to Timothy about believers that once believed but then depart from the Faith. Not EVERYONE is 'chosen' elect. Some are only 'called', but not 'chosen' like Christ's elect are.

That's the false Pre-trib fake rapture you're pushing. It's is un-Biblical, but I supposed you'll have to find that out the hard way, along with others who listen to men's doctrines where it originated (in 1830's Britain with the Edward Irving and John Darby churches).

Those are your OWN rules you've accepted from men's doctrines. The Biblical fact is like what Apostles Paul taught of how some believers on Christ Jesus can, and will depart... from the Faith they once held. And to assume they were never... in a saving relationship with Christ to begin with is...

The Revelation 16:15 verse speaks for itself... Rev 16:15 15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. (KJV) 1Thes 5:2 2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the...

They were in the Faith, but then fell away. How is it you cannot understand that? Why would you allow men's teachings to blind your understanding away from that prophecy of the apostasy of once-believing Christians departing from the Faith? When those apostates first came to Christ Jesus and...

Sounds like a regergitation of men's doctrines and not your own words. You're in denial, for that Rev.16:15 verse is Christ warning His Church STILL ON EARTH at that 6th Vial, that His coming is "as a thief" and to keep their garments lest they walked naked and appear in shame. He gives that...

Sure you did. No sense in denying in now, everyone seeing this thread has seen you already try to do just that. As if trying to 'create' an unfounded distinction between those two phrases wasn't enough to show you're not really interested in Biblically covering the idea of a rapture? Really...

You must speak a different form of the English language than I do, for the very word 'apostate' means to leave what one once held to. In other words, as applied to Christians that fall away one can't be an 'apostate' unless... they had once believed. It's specifically the following subject...

CHRISTIANITY is not... a religion. It is... The Truth. That's the difference. And teaching Gentile believers on Christ the lie that the ONLY part of The Bible meant for them are Paul's Epistles is NOT... Truth, nor Christianity. Preaching a lie that there are TWO separate Gospels of Jesus...

That's nothing but propaganda from Orthodox Jews. Constantine did NOT... start the physical structure of Christ's Church in Rome. Apostles Paul and Peter did. And even before the time of Paul's captivity in Rome, Christian Churches were ALREADY... established in Jerusalem, Antioch, Ephesus...

C.R.Stam was one the main founders... of the false Hyper-dispensationalist double-gospel movement, so there's no reason for any... Christian believer to heed his writings over God's Word as written. Thus the misrepresentation working is your doing by your suggestion towards the...

And there's the problem I'm pointing to. Because our Lord Jesus gave His 'be ready' Message there in relation to signs leading up to His return. Rev 16:12-16 12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the...