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Using your perspective on the matter, wouldn't God allowing Satan to tempt Adam and Eve IN ORDER to bring His Plan of Salvation simply be USAGE of Satan for something he wouldn't like? Wouldn't that be a type of mocking against Satan for what he did of old in rebelling against God? I think so...

Since when is departing from what God's Word declares on the matter using "a sound mind"? There are many, many Scripture events written in God's Word that are hard understandings for the worldy reasonings of man. It's because it cannot be understood without guidance by The Holy Spirit, seeing...

Does neighborly love included allowing brethren to be deceived in the Scriptures? I think... NOT! A just rebuking can be as love towards deceived brethren more than love of hugs and kisses! And since the matter involves danger to one's soul from falling to worship the pseudo-Christ who comes...

No, that's not correct, since our Lord Jesus gave specific statements that the great tribulation is prior to His return and our gathering, all per the Matt.24:29-31 Scripture. One can... indeed interpret it however they personally 'desire', but that does not mean any old interpretation will...

Maybe for those like yourself, you need some other... Scripture to plainly say, 'Jesus will return back to the Mount Olives where He ascended to Heaven from.'? Well, I declare it then. It's called the Zechariah 14 Scripture for one. Acts 1 is pointing to that very truth. But oh yeah, you've...

Heed what you want then, because confusing my coverage of the matter per Scripture with it being of me is still not an excuse to deny those Scriptures I merely declare from our Lord Jesus and His Apostles. And ideas like His Church won't be here for the tribulation is... denial of those...

Then you should be more careful how you post your own words, like those highlighted in red: "I fully understand your argument here Veteran "So when the word Rapture is used today, in the majority of cases, most people understand it to mean a Pre-trib coming and gathering to Christ, when per...

If you don't understand the Scriptures I covered in my above post, then you are most liable to be deceived when the pseudo-Christ does arrive working miracles on the earth, with the majority of deceived Christian leaders proclaiming to you that is our Lord Jesus Christ, when it won't be. If...

You're wrong about who the tribulation is upon, and meant for. ORDER OF EVENTS PER THE SCRIPTURE: 1. Matt 24:21-31 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be...

If you don't heed Paul's warning about the preaching of "another Jesus" and "another gospel" and "another spirit" per his warning in 2 Cor.11, then you are in danger of falling away to worship the coming pseudo-Christ instead of waiting on our Lord Jesus' true return after that event. The...

I kind of wish you were right about that, but I know you're not. We can't expect to come to the Truth in God's Word by reading just one Scripture example. Understanding one Scripture is only the first... step in understanding it according to all of God's Word. Paul was speaking his 2 Thess.2...

Maybe you ought to try reading the title of your thread again? Silly, nothing more than semantics, for definite simple Bible Scripture declaring the order and timing of Christ's second coming and our gathering? ONLY one versed in other doctrines than what Christ and His Apostles taught would...

I rest my case folks. Pretty difficult to find one who is so deceived away from Bible Scripture that they openly... admit the heeding of Scripture is not important to one's Salvation by Christ Jesus. Yet, there it is!

Yeah, he's on doctrines of Preterism, but I don't think he's as liable to be deceived to wrongly bow in false worship to the coming "another Jesus" like you are, which is who the Pre-trib Rapture is designed to lead to.

The ones Paul preached 2 Thessalonians 2 to were just Israelites??? What a great revelation you've made about yourself with that statement, for it reveals you have absolutely NO intention of staying with the Scriptures as written! Are you of Orthodox Judaism or Islam pretending to be a...

Ah, so now we see the real purpose why some deny the Zechariah 14:1-5 events as written. Your short trek to the Septuagint isn't enough to declare the Masoretic texts inaccurate on this matter. Here's it is folks, just below, showing what HRFTD was trying to infer all along... Acts 1:9-12 9...

Might want to read and heed Christ's warning to His disciples about it in Matthew 24 again; our Lord Jesus even gave the warning twice... Matt 24:21-26 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And...

Yes, the globalist type Christian believers include many on the 'Full Preterism' doctrines of men, but not all Preterists.

Is that your way of trying to prove the Pre-trib Rapture idea is Biblical, by just mouthing instead of going into God's Word? Who told you the Pre-trib doctrine is not a doctrine that robs anyone of salvation? That is exactly... what it is designed to do! How's that, you might say? It is...

Then quit bragging and mouthing and Biblically prove the Pre-trib fly away doctrine according to Scripture instead.