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I forgot about that! Great observation.

Sad what happened to Riddick Bowe. Some kind of brain damage made him unable to control rage. He might have got divorced over that.

Well, what is obvious from your words is your refusal to accept Elohim refers to heavenly beings, which include angels, not only to YHWH.

Oh, one other thing. I recall at the end of every training session, he and his sparing partners would sit in a circle and do Bible Study. Holyfield certainly prepared for that fight on more than one level.

The rationalizations that go against explicit Scripture truly show the power of indoctrinated idolatry. Everything - including the word of God - is secondary to defending their man-made idol.

Me too! Do you know what he stitched on his robe when he fought Tyson? A quote from Philippians. As the fight approached, with Tyson converting to Islam, I really felt there was a Spiritual dimension to the fight.

Great question! I think there is something to the psychology of those who make their doctrines idols. They rationalize beyond all reason for what is not defensible by 4 pillars: Definition Logic Language Usage Explicit Scripture Idolatry was once hard for me to grasp until I began to see it in...

Not another thread derailed by you OSAS dogma. This thread is NOT about eternal salvation. The question is, once saved are you capable of sinning? Or are you merely unable to practice sinning. I am interested in your take and am grateful to @1stCenturyLady for starting this.

Given that Scripture says he was firstborn, it is consistent with Scripture; a reasonable interpretation. What makes it silly? o_O

Only does not mean "including another, such as myself." It truly is amazing the inventions of language trinitarians will come up with to rationalize their idol. Your so contrary as to suppose God has a God.

No difference at all, just semantics. Jesus is a man, who has the same image as all men, all who are image bearers of God. Beyond the image, Jesus lived up the life his God had willed for him. That's the difference.

You are confusing means and end just to be argumentative. People talk about the finished work that Christ did on the cross. That is what I am talking about. The consequence of this sacrifice, of this work is the redemption of man.

Absurd - even by trinitarian standards. Me, Myself and I - a council does not make up.

You did by the most insidious of means; to claim that he did not even have a choice in performing his greatest act.

Where is this in Scripture? So much orthodoxy is totally divorced from the actual words and meaning of Scripture.

That you insist a verse that does not even have Jesus in it be interpretted to mean he is God shows the lack of actual explicit teaching of your doctrine in Scripture. I say John 1:1-5 refers to the literal word of God, not to another person.

Yes but still few decisions are made by the majority of people in the land. I just answered that. See below.

Friend, I just answered that question. Communisim is outward looking, about coveting what others have. Capitalism is inward looking, how to better your situation (independent of anyone else).

Well, the only thing I would add are those explicit verses that say Jesus is a man.

Brilliant! It is so apparent when one studies it. The fact that the trinity is not in the Bible - not the world, not the concept - is the dead give away. It really is amazing that anyone who actually reads the Bible walks away believing trinitarianism. It shows the power of indoctrination. I...