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I understand, but I think it's a good idea to know what's out there. For instance, you say banks train people by using real money. So you feel you know the truth,, this is good. But then you say some things that sound very calvinistic. So, yes, it's good to know what they believe so as not to...

Which one? John 6:44 which is used by Calvinists to prove their point... Or John 12:32 which proves that Jesus will draw ALL men to Him?

LC It is one thing to FOREKNOW all that will happen. Do you believe foreknowledge CAUSES something to happen? Or we just KNOW it will? Predestination means that God predestined everything that will happen. Everything. The bible does not teach this. It teaches free will. I find it a little...

I'm sorry Iforrest. There are not two realities. There's only ONE reality. Either we have free will or we don't. You do have to decide which it is. The bible teaches that we have free will. Deuteronomy 30:19 19“I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you...

Are you trying hard to get yourself depressed? Try this instead:

I always knew that the gospels were written in Greek because that was the language everyone in that area knew - like English would be today world-wide...it's the language everyone knows. There's so much we don't really know if we want to admit it. Some say Mathew didn't write Mathew and that...

What are you saying AMEN to?

What did God foreknow and what did God predestine? Are you a calvinist? Or do you just not know their theology?

What a funny movie! She has my card. And we'll help her use it, sir! LOL

What plan? You think I'll answer? If I answer you'll know the plan. What good would that do?

Yes PJ, not only is it accurate, it's very tame. If you read his writings it gets much worse. So I'm happy to hear you're not calvinist. This is why: It changes the nature of God. God is love. 1 John 4:8 How does a God of love predestinate some to hell through no fault of their own?? God...

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Neither do I! Amen to that. If you read the O.P. you'll see why I started it.

It's not ME saying it. Calvin stated this. If God made everything, He also made sin and He also causes us to sin. Not MY idea! I agree with you.

I agree. It's wonderful that when scrolls are found, they confirm what we know. But I thought the gospels were written originally in Greek. Is this not correct?? I like reading about the ECF, but didn't know they stated that the gospels were written in Hebrew! Please respond. Be back later.

Is that Errol Flynn or Tyrone Powers? The father of Romina Powers, the ex-wife of Al Bano. They're touring BTW. Guess they both need some money.

My point to the O.P., who left, was that these secrets have nothing to do with our spirituality. IOW, they're not going to say that Jesus didn't die or that He didn't resurrect. They have to do with wars, disputes between churches, IOW, church matters. I don't know too many that are actually...

Amen Mayflower. This disasterous doctrine has lead many away from God. I'm happy you made it through. John 3:16 is one of my favorite scriptures. Welcome to the forum, and thanks for your testimony.

You don't understand Helen. In Calvin's teachings, God does NOT leave us to our consequences. God is deterministic. He determines every little thing that happens. He made sin and HE makes you sin. Everything that happens, GOD makes happen! You really should read up on this.

part 2 of 2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Section 8. Explanation of the saying, that many are called, but few chosen. A twofold call. The expression of our Savior, "Many are called, but few are chosen," (Mat 22: 14), is also very improperly...