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  1. BreadOfLife

    CAN WE FALL AWAY ?

    Thanks for another LONG-WINDED, albeit, empty response. YOUR understanding that once a man is converted, he is sentenced to en eternity with the Lord - whether he wants to remain or not. As I have shown - this is anti-Biblical nonsense. A person has the choice to stay or leave - and has that...
  2. BreadOfLife

    CAN WE FALL AWAY ?

    WRONG. First of all - this is referring to the LEVITICAL PRIESTHOOD - not individual Christians. YOU are in NO position to decide who is "saved" and who is not. Whereas, we are called to judge a persons fruits - you are NOT to judge their souls (Matt. 7:1-5). This is reserved for GOD alone (1...
  3. BreadOfLife

    If We Protestants Truly Hated Catholics...

    Nope - because I was aware of Pius XII's use of it and understand the context. YOU don't. Now - can you explain to me why this has NOT been used since - and WHY is it not considered an official title of the Church?
  4. BreadOfLife

    If We Protestants Truly Hated Catholics...

    WHY do you keep dodging the question?? I didn't give the lesson on the Sheep and Goats - JESUS did. I didn't say that only the one who DOES the will of the Father will make it to Heaven- JESUS did. I didn't say that we must pick up our cross daily - JESUS did. I'm NOT talking about sheep vs...
  5. BreadOfLife

    If We Protestants Truly Hated Catholics...

    What it ALL boils down to is that we pretty much agree on salvation - about 75%. As I Catholic - I have a moral certitude that I am saved. HOWEVER - I cannot remain in this state if I choose to reject Christ - which I am free to do whenever I want. What the Church has never taught is that we...
  6. BreadOfLife

    Shadows and Realities

    Because you couldn't answer them . . . The meaning of Peter's vision was that there were no longer and dietary restrictions. If YOU are taking something other than that from this vision - then you are inventing somethig new . . . The individual doesn't have the full authority of the Church. If...
  7. BreadOfLife

    CAN WE FALL AWAY ?

    And, as you have been repeatedly shown - Epignosis isn't about simply "knowing", There are already Greek words for that (Oida, Gnosis). No - as I have educated YOU and Stranger and APAK and everybody else who refuses to accept - Epignosis is a FULL, experiential and complete knowledge. As I...
  8. BreadOfLife

    If We Protestants Truly Hated Catholics...

    You completely avoided answering the question. I asked YOU to show me how the lesson of the Sheep and Goats - which is a lesson about OBEDIENCE - is NOT about salvation. Now - either answer the question - or simply admit that you were wrong . . . And AGAIN you are avoiding the question. WHY...
  9. BreadOfLife

    If We Protestants Truly Hated Catholics...

    And now you're lying. When did I EVER say that I deny "Catholic Church"?? Besides - YOUR sentence was redundant because you said, "world, global, universal" Catholic Church. That's like saying "Catholic Catholic Catholic Catholic" Church. Uh-huh, soooooo, WHY hasn't it been used since - in...
  10. BreadOfLife

    If We Protestants Truly Hated Catholics...

    Sorry Grace - but this is arrogance. We are not deserving of ANY inheritance - no matter WHAT we believe or WHAT we do. YOU guys keep saying that there is "NOTHING" that we need to do to gain salvation - but Scripture condemns that viewpoint. We MUST be Baptized and be born again (John 3:5...
  11. BreadOfLife

    CAN WE FALL AWAY ?

    Apparently you are totally ignorant of what the Catholic Church teaches - so allow me to educate you. First of all - the Church doesn't go around telling people WHO is "saved" and who isn't because that is between the individual and GOD. I see this all the time from Protestants - especially...
  12. BreadOfLife

    CAN WE FALL AWAY ?

    Matthew 23:37 Luke 13:34 Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and YOU WERE NOT WILLING. It's ALL about cooperating with God's grace. The god YOU'VE...
  13. BreadOfLife

    If We Protestants Truly Hated Catholics...

    Ummmm, WHAT part of "Then they (the disobedient) will go away to ETERNAL PUNISHMENT, but the righteous to eternal life” do you NOT understand?? This is about SALVATION vs DAMNATION. Funny how you can post Scripture without actually reading itr. Rev. 3: 5 states that he that overcomes will not...
  14. BreadOfLife

    CAN WE FALL AWAY ?

    First of all - Paul never teaches OSAS. Secondly - your security IS eternal - as long as YOU cooperate with His grace. That's what the following verses are ALL about (Matt. 5:13, Matt. 7:21, Rom. 11:22, Heb. 10:26-27, 2 Peter 2:20-22, 2 Peter 3:17, Rev. 3:5, Rev. 22:19).
  15. BreadOfLife

    Shadows and Realities

    Yes - and WE only know BECAUSE it was explained, Eijnstein. WRONG. First of all - NONE of them refers to the individual believer. Here's a little hermeneutical help for you: When Jesus is teaching the crowds - He is teaching ALL individuals. When He is instructing His inner circle (Apostles...
  16. BreadOfLife

    If We Protestants Truly Hated Catholics...

    This is utter nonsense. If you actually believe that our obedience is simply a tool that brings us "closer" to Christ - then you DON'T know Him. Our obedience is ESSENTIAL for our salvation. As a matter of fact - you CANNOT have true faith without obedience . . . Matt. 7:21 “Not everyone who...
  17. BreadOfLife

    CAN WE FALL AWAY ?

    Funny how much you anti-Catholics HATE the science of linguistics - as much as you hate history . . .
  18. BreadOfLife

    If We Protestants Truly Hated Catholics...

    Uh huh - and back in post #291 I explained to you WHY he used this incorrect nomenclature. It was an ecumenical olive branch. The fact remains that this is not the title of the Church - and that it WAS born in Henry VIII's England to differentiate HIS version of the "Catholic" Church of England...
  19. BreadOfLife

    If We Protestants Truly Hated Catholics...

    Obeying Christ doesn't get you any closer to Heaven?? That is perverse thinking. There is NO faith without obedience, Einstein . . .
  20. BreadOfLife

    If We Protestants Truly Hated Catholics...

    I never said he was. However - as not only a contemporary of the Apostles and a STUDENT of the Apostles John - we see how the Church was forming at the end of the 1st century through his writings. Obedience to the Bishop, obeying the clergy, the celebration of a common Eucharist - these are...