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  1. BreadOfLife

    If We Protestants Truly Hated Catholics...

    Ummmmm, apparently, you didn't R*E*A*D my last post - and, you're reading an updated version of the Douay Rheims Bible. The original 16th century version didn't say "Do Penance" in Luke 13:1. Anyway - I already addressed the Latin in that verse from the Vulgate . . . As for your manure about...
  2. BreadOfLife

    If We Protestants Truly Hated Catholics...

    And, unfortunately, YOU didn't post the text from the previous Enclyclical from Pius Xii, "MYSTICI CORPORIS CHRISTI", which he was referencing in this quote in context. Here is the text: "For nothing more glorious, nothing nobler, nothing surely more honorable can be imagined than to belong to...
  3. BreadOfLife

    CAN WE FALL AWAY ?

    No - you didn't say it - but you implied it. Epignosis is what it is - whether YOU choose to believe it or not. It is indicative of a converted, born again person. I know this is difficult for you because so much of what you believe is riding on this. Look - I don't know how much linguistic...
  4. BreadOfLife

    CAN WE FALL AWAY ?

    WRONG. If 1 Tim. 2:4 and John 3:16 are the truth - and I am banking on that - then that means God gives EVERYBODY the grace to believe. NOT everybody, however, will cooperate with that grace and choose to believe. God is not some cosmic rapist who forces His love on some while damning the...
  5. BreadOfLife

    CAN WE FALL AWAY ?

    WRONG. We HAVE a choice to choose God or to choose evil. The problem that YOU and Calvin have is that you actually believe that God only gives the grace to believe to SOME - and tosses the rest into Hell. That would render MANY Scripture verses a LIE . . . 1 Tim. 2:4 states emphatically that...
  6. BreadOfLife

    CAN WE FALL AWAY ?

    Let me get this straight: From Post #60 and before - YOU claimed that these people DIDN'T have Epignosis. NOW you are saying that they DID?? MY point has been that if YOUR Protestant KJV is correct - and the Rom. 1:28 says, "And even as they did not like to RETAIN God in their knowledge...
  7. BreadOfLife

    CAN WE FALL AWAY ?

    No - that's a man-made Calvinist invention. What did Jesus say to Jerusalem when He arrived?? Matthew 23:37 Luke 13:34 Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her...
  8. BreadOfLife

    CAN WE FALL AWAY ?

    I know this is going to anger you but YOU left the Catholic Church out of pure ignorance. It's one thing to say that you simply didn't care for the Mass or found it "boring" or something other. HOWEVER, you are misrepresenting it which shows me that you DON'T know what the Mass is. First of...
  9. BreadOfLife

    CAN WE FALL AWAY ?

    No - if they HAD it then the were just as "saved" as any other born again person. If they LOST it - they they were LOST. Whether YOU like it or not - we have a Free Will - and that free will lasts until we DIE.
  10. BreadOfLife

    CAN WE FALL AWAY ?

    NOT according to YOUR KJV: Rom. 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge (epignosis), God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; According to this - they didn't RETAIN their full and experiential knowledge - or what the...
  11. BreadOfLife

    CAN WE FALL AWAY ?

    I already addressed this in post #49: THANK YOU for proving my point. The word used in this passage is "Epignosis": Romans 1:28-32 And even as they did not like to RETAIN God in their KNOWLEDGE (Epignosis),God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient...
  12. BreadOfLife

    Shadows and Realities

    No - the answer to the rescinding of the dietary Laws in in Acts 10:15: Acts 10:15 The voice spoke to him again, a second time, “What God has made clean, you are not to call profane. No "False" interpretation there . . . If YOU'RE still keeping Kosher - then you don't know Christ (Col. 2:16)...
  13. BreadOfLife

    CAN WE FALL AWAY ?

    NOT possible. First of all - Epignosis means a full and experiential (not experimental) knowledge. It is a "Perfect" knowledge. As I showed your friend Stranger - the Exegetical Dictionary of the New Testament goes so far to refer to it as "Christian Faith." This does not connote a person...
  14. BreadOfLife

    Baptism ?

    This is a great question - and the answer is BOTH. He was saved by his belief - and his obedience. ACTING on his belief is what gave birth to his faith - NOT simply "believing." Faith = Belief + Obedience (DOING)
  15. BreadOfLife

    Guns, Guns, Killing, and more Guns

    WHHHHAAAT?? WHO told you this?? On Pentecost, you see Jews from ALL over the world converging on Jerusalem (Acts 2:12) to observe their duties under the Law. ALL Jews were to observe the Law. This statement is nonsense. As St. Augustine so wisely said: "The New Testament lies hidden in the...
  16. BreadOfLife

    CAN WE FALL AWAY ?

    And there you go again inserting your uneducated opinions about the word "Epignosis" - when the consensus of PROTESTANT Biblical scholarship rejects your idea that is is merely "knowledge." Here's what YOUR fellow Protestant scholars say about the importance of the use of the word "Epignosis"...
  17. BreadOfLife

    If We Protestants Truly Hated Catholics...

    What's really interesting is that the Church mentioned in Scripture was being called "The Catholic Church" by the end of the first century - while the Apostles John was STILL alive. In fact, we see it in the writings of one of his own students, Ignatius, Bishop of Antioch. Ge a load of this . ...
  18. BreadOfLife

    CAN WE FALL AWAY ?

    Because your questions are based on a false premise. It's not about Catholics trying to be "good enough" or trying to DO enough. Those passages aren't about a Christian who stumbles into sin because that is something we ALL do. They are about rejecting God and returning to a life of willful sin.
  19. BreadOfLife

    CAN WE FALL AWAY ?

    First of all - your entire house of cards rests on Epignosis - so I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it. Here is a little Protestant scholarship on this Greek term . . . Richard Chenevix Trench notes, “In comparing epignosis with gnosis, the “epi” must be regarded as an intensive use of a...
  20. BreadOfLife

    CAN WE FALL AWAY ?

    Yup - they ABSOLUTELY know God because they were born again in Christ - and NOW they reject Him. This is called, "FREE WILL" - a Biblical concept that your ecclesial father John Calvin rejected.