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  1. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    LOL. The fact that the trinity is not in the Bible, the fact that that not one Scripture verse directly says Jesus is God is not a big fat excuse. It's a simple fact. Sure. As soon as you admit the trinity is not in the Bible, admit that not one Scripture verse directly says Jesus is God.
  2. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    We are not communicating. What books are included in that list; the Maccabees?
  3. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Do you notice how all your questions are to skirt around the fact that "Jesus is God" is not in Scripture. You always have to read into it and ask such questions that you'll undoubtedly be unhappy with my non-trinitarian answers.
  4. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    The Bible is being made into an idol. It is only parchment. The Bible is a collection of writing men compiled. You will not find in the Bible God identifying precisely what encompasses his word, what books to leave in, what books to leave out.
  5. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    So, they myopically define Gnosticism to be a 1st century heresy AS IF they are not guilty of invoking special knowledge now.
  6. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    I do but you keep talking about Isaiah 9:6.
  7. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    My faith is not in the Bible; my faith is in God.
  8. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    If this is true, how come the Hebrews never identified it as a prophecy? Do you realize how ridiculous it is to claim the Jews don’t understand their own sacred texts? I think @Rich R’s thread got to you; if Jesus is not the Father, he is not God. And this Isaiah chapter - about God, as I...
  9. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Yea, trinitarians make it seem like God is incapable of communicating directly. I love how they claim only the Spiritually mature can ‘see’ their mystical truth that CONTRADICTS God’s explicit words. Yea, right!
  10. Wrangler

    A Form of godliness

    Yes, you are superceding your speculations above explicit Scripture to the contary. See GE 1:6 - He (singular) divided light from darkness. This is the 1st verse that undermines the notion of the trinity. God is NEVER referred to as plural, always singular.
  11. Wrangler

    A Form of godliness

    No one is discounting them. Only trinitarians speculate on who God is talking to regarding "our image." Mystical dualism. Either the subject is singular (one) or plural, not both.
  12. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Do you see the word God or LORD in Is 53 or is it referring to God's servant?
  13. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Jesus was, is and will always be the son of god. He will never graduate to be our Creator. That was not the roll he was created for.
  14. Wrangler

    Where did they invent that I AM is some name of God?

    Perhaps. Still, you provide a non-answer to my question.
  15. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    The opposite is true. You are imposing your trinitarian doctrine onto unitarian text. I showed you how Is 9 refers to God over and over and over again. For some reason, you think it is the child Jesus.
  16. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Jesus is not God. It's so funny that you ask me a question OVER and OVER again. When I finally take the time to answer it comprehensively, you just ignore everything I write and copy and paste something. Nice!
  17. Wrangler

    Best Thing Ever Happened to You After Being a Believer!

    Hold on there partner. If you are hoping for a vending machine God, you'll be disappointed. (Don't think 12 Days of Christmas). Agreed. Suffering and death to self is not what fleshy people seek but it is the pathway to Spiritual growth. Spirituality 101: It's not all about you. I once gave...
  18. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Wow! You are stuck on this idol. Let's review Isaiah Ch 9, starting with verse 1 (VOICE) But there will be no more gloom for those who knew such hardship. In times past, God humbled the land of Zebulun and Naphtali; later, He will restore the honor and glory to the way of the sea, the land...
  19. Wrangler

    Best Thing Ever Happened to You After Being a Believer!

    Peace that transcends all undertanding. To KNOW I am walking the right path and in a righteous relationship with my Creator, surpasses all other gifts.