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  1. Wrangler

    In our image..

    I always thought of the image as a being with moral agency.
  2. Wrangler

    Are Jehovah's witnesses real Christians?

    What a pivot! I didn't see that coming. We were talking about the man-is-god thesis and all of a sudden we aren't.
  3. Wrangler

    Gnosticism

    Agreed. However, what this esoteric knowledge consists of seems to still be a point of difference.
  4. Wrangler

    Gnosticism

    Appeal to Strawman. My premise is the purpose of Christians is NOT to be a Bible student. Sounds like you think obtaining knowledge is the purpose.
  5. Wrangler

    Are Jehovah's witnesses real Christians?

    LANGUAGE USAGE. Not your friend. A requirement to be a son is to be born from one’s father. Otherwise, you are using words but making up your own definitions - that CONTRADICT actual word meanings.
  6. Wrangler

    Are Jehovah's witnesses real Christians?

    I really don't know what the purpose is of such posts. I thought the question was Are Jehovah's witnesses real Christians? The question is not, "do you agree with JW doctrine." I suspect we all agree on some doctrines. And I take it as a given that only those of a certain denomination...
  7. Wrangler

    Gnosticism

    Yes, we are NOT to be pew sitters (NOT to be studying the Bible), as the parable indicates. All 3 servants would have gotten no credit spending their time waxing academically about how they are caring for their master's assets. They have to actually DO it! It is not their academic understanding...
  8. Wrangler

    Gnosticism

    The simple questions reveal people's agenda. No sir. Although I cannot say the exact opposite is true, I grew up in a Catholic community. No one that I knew growing up actually read the Bible. It was considered a mountain too big to climb. You used the term 'main focus' whereas I used the...
  9. Wrangler

    John 8:24, 28, 58 - Jesus Christ IS YHWH

    So says the mystic. Fortunately, God chose not to keep who he is a mystery. Romans 15:6 Contemporary English Version 6 Then all of you together will praise God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
  10. Wrangler

    John 8:24, 28, 58 - Jesus Christ IS YHWH

    What verse says that again? And who raised Jesus from the dead in the verse in question?
  11. Wrangler

    Follow The Science

    I say to people like @2ndRateMind that I do not have enough faith to be an atheist. His idol of science must cause him cognitive dissonance when confronted with such a recent and public shaming of its obvious weakness, succumbing to the whims of the people, which makes it look an awful lot like...
  12. Wrangler

    'God working' question

    Without appearing to answer via circular reasoning, the chosen people are the people God choses to extend his grace to for our salvation is not by the earned justice of our merit.
  13. Wrangler

    Are Jehovah's witnesses real Christians?

    Jesus said he has a God - who we relate to as father - who is the only true God. What does this ‘point to?’
  14. Wrangler

    John 8:24, 28, 58 - Jesus Christ IS YHWH

    Wait. Who raised Jesus from the dead?
  15. Wrangler

    Are Jehovah's witnesses real Christians?

    I make the strongest possible argument; there is no explicit Scripture teaching the trinity but there is explicit Scripture teaching that only the Father is God. If my argument is weak, what does that make your argument? ... Drops Mic ... ;)
  16. Wrangler

    Are Jehovah's witnesses real Christians?

    Ad Hominem. You just lost the argument. Unfounded accusation. This is not about me. So says mystics. On the topic at hand, trinitarians put all their eggs in this vague 'pointing' while downplaying explicit Scripture. Like an anti-gun abortionist, upset about RvW being overturned while seeing...
  17. Wrangler

    Are Jehovah's witnesses real Christians?

    There is your Oneness doctrine again! As children of God, we all share in the inheritance of God. It does not make us God, YHWH, who we relate to as the Father. Jesus is not the father and was never identified as YHWH, as God. This is primarily because Jesus is not God.
  18. Wrangler

    What does Colossians 1:16 mean when it says "For by him were all things created..."

    Thank you. They often retreat to what they think is safe intellect grounds, like going to the native language. But I enjoy there is no safety with an inherently contradictory concept. In a recent analysis of John 1, a fine upstanding, card carrying member of trinity land did all he could to...
  19. Wrangler

    What does Colossians 1:16 mean when it says "For by him were all things created..."

    Let's take a look @ v7-8 (NLT): Instead, he gave up his divine privileges; he took the humble position of a slave and was born as a human being. When he appeared in human form, 8 he humbled himself in obedience to God and died a criminal’s death on a cross. Notice how v7 does...
  20. Wrangler

    Looking for Job

    We all have internet connection and can research as we please. The point is about being an effective communicator. A bad OP makes a statement, like ‘in the beginning god said …’ A good OP makes a thesis to discuss or a question to answer. An example is why are the books of the Bible arranged...