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  1. Wrangler

    Are Jehovah's witnesses real Christians?

    Wow! All in all means pantheonism. Let's take a closer look at Christianities end game, where Christ is still distinguisable from God. 1 Corinthians 15:23-28 NLT But there is an order to this resurrection: Christ was raised as the first of the harvest; then all who belong to Christ will be...
  2. Wrangler

    What does Colossians 1:16 mean when it says "For by him were all things created..."

    Even if they pull out a bad translation it still does not help them. If Jesus emptied himself, it means he became a container. And most people know the container and the contents are not one in essence.
  3. Wrangler

    Are Jehovah's witnesses real Christians?

    Despite the Bible saying over and over and over again that there is only one God, YWHW, the Oneness doctrine persists to subordinate the actual Word of YHWH.
  4. Wrangler

    Follow The Science

    I started a thread about what I heard Sunday on Moody Radio. That subject was regarding knowledge. Another profound point the host made was the rock of our faith being such a firm foundation. By contrast, many deluded in our secular world embrace the adage that they 'follow the science.' Yet...
  5. Wrangler

    'God working' question

    I think the Age of Reconcilliation continues until the end. Lots of work to bring his chosen people to him, to ready their soul for the plans he has for them. Jer 29:11.
  6. Wrangler

    Are Jehovah's witnesses real Christians?

    But not before Creation was. This is why Jesus is said to be the firstborn of Creation. Firstborn implies a series of like to follow.
  7. Wrangler

    Who is Jesus to a Non-Trinitarian?

    Preposterous! God identifies himself to Moses, whose name is not I am or Jesus but YHWH. Ex 3:15. The idea that "I am" is a divine identifier is just absurdity on top of absurdity. Lot's of people say I am. Does that make them God?
  8. Wrangler

    Who is Jesus to a Non-Trinitarian?

    Yes, God said he’d send another helper, not himself. See the difference? I discern Scripture this way; the only true God - who we relate to as Father - is explicitly called YHWH (not Jesus).
  9. Wrangler

    John 8:24, 28, 58 - Jesus Christ IS YHWH

    Jesus did not teach us to pray to him but to the only true God, the Father.
  10. Wrangler

    John 8:24, 28, 58 - Jesus Christ IS YHWH

    LOL. If only the trinity were actually in the Bible …
  11. Wrangler

    John 8:24, 28, 58 - Jesus Christ IS YHWH

    FAIL. He did not raise himself. This says what he would do. I’d get my wife a cup of coffee does not mean I did get her the cup of coffee. I know you know the difference. You just want to pretend they are the same.
  12. Wrangler

    Gnosticism

    Yes. The parable of the Talents is about DOING the will of God. The Will of God is as obvious as the sun in the sky and does not require esoteric knowledge of astronomy, quantum mechanics, physics, etc. The parable of the Talents is NOT about the secret or better knowledge one of the servants...
  13. Wrangler

    Gnosticism

    We are not talking about parts. We are talking about PURPOSE. The simple statement is the PURPOSE of Christianity is NOT to be students of the Bible. Do you agree?
  14. Wrangler

    Who is Jesus to a Non-Trinitarian?

    I know. You have been indoctrinated to call out to a god not found in Scripture. From today’s devotional reading: so that together you may with one voice glorify God and the father of our Lord Jesus Christ. Romans 15:5 God is the father of Jesus. The verse is not a trinitarian verse. It does...
  15. Wrangler

    Who is Jesus to a Non-Trinitarian?

    Reminds me of when I asked a trinitarian who said 'this is my son, in whom I am well pleased.' He obstinately said it is the voice of the Father. LOL When I pointed out that Jesus is not called the son of the father, the conversation ended. The verse in question proves beyond any rational...
  16. Wrangler

    Is it possible to get my faith back?

    Wow! PossibleThrowawayAccount what a confession. Thank you so much for risking opening an account here. I pray you find support, encouragement and love here to help you on what has obviously been an extremely trying life. I pride myself on logic as a means to determine truth. If you examine...
  17. Wrangler

    Difference between Catholic and Protestant.

    Agreed! IF the church was build on Peter, it'd be called Peterians. But we are called Christians, not by some fancy word play. The idea that an eternal, all-powerful, all knowing God would found his church to reconcile the world to him, not on his divine son, whom he sent for this VERY...
  18. Wrangler

    Does John 1:1 say Jesus is God

    Absolutely not! John 20:31 tells us everything he wrote was NOT to prove Jesus was God. Given that explicit statement by John, who wrote the most anti-trinitarian book of the Bible, you need to read John 1:1 in that light. The word was god, made flesh, in fulfillment of Deut 18L15-18. It is NOT...
  19. Wrangler

    What does Colossians 1:16 mean when it says "For by him were all things created..."

    We are not talking about appearance AJ! Sending numerous intimidation squads reveals the fruit in question, lacking grace. There you go again, pretending this is a criminal trial. 1st, the trauma was brought on by intimidation squads, on top of all manner of coercive tactics. 2nd, I believe...
  20. Wrangler

    Does John 1:1 say Jesus is God

    Do you believe the Bible does not recognize other real gods besides THE Creator, YHWH? Jesus rightfully defended himself calling himself the son of God because of Ps 82. Check it out.