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Great post.

I'm not sure I know what a seeker sensitive church is. A church that caters to any belief system? Here where I live there's only the Catholic church, and yes, you're right, there's no teaching and it's full of immature Christians who don't know their faith at all. This does not mean some of...

?? Wasn't that White Rabbit? Who can remember.

Will have to look up Tiger Eye.

Who were you before you were you again?

Thank you kind sir.

Joshua 6:25

I thought of Joshua. When the harlot lies to protect the men that were sent to Jericho as spies. Can't find the scripture right now.

They might just like egg rolls. Deception is not necessarily sin. A person might be deceiving someone to save their life, or someone else's. If the deception is toward a harmful end result, or for personal gain, then it would be a lie and lying is a sin.

A Gorilla is a big monkey. Don't feel bad. Boxes should come with instructions.

I don't understand what Revelation 21:1 has to do with the two Kingdoms and specifically with one being already condemned, as you said. Revelation is speaking about the end of times. The two Kingdoms I refer to have nothing to do with the end. One Kindgom is the Kingdom of Heaven. Heaven...

Agreed on everything. I believe no one brought up Jude because it sounds like maybe you might think we're talking about witnessing and using fear as a tactic. This is not what this thread is about. It's about the possibility of being saved if we have ONLY fear. I've never considered this...

If God has His way without our free will choice, He is forcing us. What is difficult to understand about this? But then you say that we come to Christ in our sin in accordance with OUR will. Which is it? Does God choose us or do we choose God? You're speaking about God's sovereignty in the...

Good point about salvation and our relationship with God involving trust. I agree with all you've said. Even if it starts out with fear, it has to progress to something more.

P.S. It's impervious to sin because of the body itself. Our glorified bodies will not sin.

I guess I could be really slow at times. What are you talking about????? You're talking about the glorified body above, are you not? WHEN do we receive this glorified body? In heaven of course, at the end of time. So, are you saying we could still sin when we have our glorified body but Jesus is...

I agree. But they're still part of the Body if they're born again. Right?

It's the same body. It's US. We will recognize the person, but it will be a glorified body. The body we have now will put on incorruption. I don't care for the New Living Translation, but it's good for this. 1 Corinthians 15:53 New Living Translation For our dying bodies must be...

Only God is divine. But our glorified bodies will be sinless. Is this what the argument is about???

How? Is there scripture for this?