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  1. Wrangler

    "The word was a god"?

    You did by this post. I doubt you are aware of how this statement destroys the trinity. If Jesus is the real God of the Bible, it necessarily means that the trinitarian god is not the real God of the Bible. And it also means the Father is not the real God of the Bible since Jesus is not the...
  2. Wrangler

    homosexuality and ethics

    From the norm? Friend, the standard is from the Will of God. If you use the wrong standard, such as a societal standard, you are falling prey to Satan's perversion of God's Creation.
  3. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Jesus says he has a God (who is the Father) in John 20:17. And in John 17:3 he says his God (who is the Father) is the only true God. This thread is about the logical implications of these words from Jesus. See OP.
  4. Wrangler

    John 8:24, 28, 58 - Jesus Christ IS YHWH

    You logic contradicts Scripture. Consider how 1 COR 15:23-28 excludes God in Christianity's end game. 23 But there is an order to this resurrection: Christ was raised as the first of the harvest; then all who belong to Christ will be raised when he comes back. 24 After that the end will come...
  5. Wrangler

    "The word was a god"?

    "Biblical Unitarianism, contrary to its name, is not biblical. The problem is their false view of the nature God and the person of Christ. " Websites do not determine truth. Sad that you rely on copy and pasting websites as a proxy for discussion and argument. For instance, P1. For us, there is...
  6. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    A rational person cannot see what is not there. If the doctor of the Trinity was in the scripture it would be the most quoted verse by those who suppose salvation depends on believing it. expound on it? It’s so simple even a Trinitarian can understand it. The Shama states God is one not three...
  7. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    I’ve explained this is not a threads. Like global warming alarmists, Who endlessly go on about ‘the science,’ STILL can’t admit it’s about politics when you can concede. Suppose everything about ‘the science’ is true, then what? trinitarians demand that scripture only be interpreted by...
  8. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    God is holy and has a spirit. That does not make this aspect of his existence to be a separate person from himself. That is a trinitarian invention and you, sir, are once again imposing Trinitarian dogma onto Unitarian text.
  9. Wrangler

    homosexuality and ethics

    do you want would never was and never will be. Pedophilia and homsexuality have something in common and that is sexual deviancy. That they are different in someway is irrelevant regarding morality.
  10. Wrangler

    John 8:24, 28, 58 - Jesus Christ IS YHWH

    No, are you serious? ‘Them’ other elect is who YHWH gave to Jesus as part of all authority. To take this to mean, YHWH have his name has no actual reference. A real stretch of interpretation.
  11. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    I’ve often wondered if this divine active power could be guardian angels?
  12. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Not only is this the opposite of clear (who God is talking to is unstated), this passage does not address the fact that there is not one single verse in all 66 books of Scripture that says the one God exists in three persons.
  13. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Sadly, I did not find it. I saw your question about other members beliefs thread from yesterday. Is that the one you are referring to or did you start another one? There is a long standing thread I've dabbled in entitled, "Jesus is God." If you want a fresh, play by play of the specific verses...
  14. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    I doubt you'll get an honest answer. Mr. Avoid the Subject and Replace Question With What You Deem A Better Question, Why not answer Peterlag's inferior question, out of respect, and then start a new thread with your superior, better question?
  15. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Trinitarian dogma says this but it contradicts what the Bible says. Please humbly admit that there is not one single verse in all 66 books of Scripture that says the one God exists in three persons. Thanks!
  16. Wrangler

    homosexuality and ethics

    I neighbor's son and I became very close. He was like a son to me. It came to light that there was an incident with him, ~14 yo and another neighbor's boy who was 4. I was devastated by this. I read up on it and learned there is a difference between pedophilia and child molestation. One is the...
  17. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Start another thread on that please. Again, you are all over the place. Without researching it, I recall Stephan saw Jesus standing at the right hand of God just before he died. Logic. Jesus is not God but is God's right hand man. No one stands on their own right hand side. See my thread on...
  18. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Hijacking the thread. Appeal to Diversion. Happy to address other Scripture in other threads. Listen. Starting a thread is free. Go start one. I suggest the 3 best verses or argument FOR and AGAINST the trinity. I think you are smart enough to realize it is hard to talk about dozens of...
  19. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Friend, this thread is about that one Scripture. Why can't you stick to it and admit what it says regarding your doctrine? I know you are new here. The other verses you presented have already been delved into in other threads and I'd be happy to have that conversation with you also. But I can...