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  1. Wrangler

    For Those Who Deny Jesus Christ IS Almighty God

    Did you just repeat this claim, ignoring how it does not apply to Jesus, is NOT a Messianic passage at all.
  2. Wrangler

    For Those Who Deny Jesus Christ IS Almighty God

    Right. Don’t you see? If I say I put it all on black, it necessarily means nothing was put on red on the roulette wheel. While you know what John wrote in v 20:31, you fail to grasp what it means in terms of the man-is-god thesis. Not only is the Gospel of John the most anti-trinitarian book of...
  3. Wrangler

    For Those Who Deny Jesus Christ IS Almighty God

    No. It doesn't. If I say I would get my wife a cup of coffee, it does not mean, like the other verses do, that someone else ACTUALLY did it. Point is, a verse says God - in his unitarian nature - raised Jesus from the dead. This destroys the notion that Jesus is God. The best trinitarian...
  4. Wrangler

    For Those Who Deny Jesus Christ IS Almighty God

    Trinitarians rely on dualism. Dualism is the philosophical tenet to escape logic, accepting and advancing the mystical notion that contradictions exist.
  5. Wrangler

    For Those Who Deny Jesus Christ IS Almighty God

    Not one little bit is it refuted that Jesus is less than God as it is a demonstrable fact. Jesus died and was raised by God. God did not die then raised by Jesus. It is so peculiar that trinitarians rely on verses like John 5:18, which is written like gossip; somebody who is wrong about Jesus...
  6. Wrangler

    Putin's Russia, A Communist Dictatorship Or Christian Nation?

    Yes, he is my (non-American) hero. Many heroes throughout history have slaughtered enemies. The OT is filled with them. That seems to be a problem for you. Biden's slaughtering people but is not my hero. So, you shift from diversion and personal attack to mockery.
  7. Wrangler

    I’m in a strange place: very conservative, but not Christian

    Yes, you can understand the map without ever having visited the territory. The political Left can be rejected on many sound principles. I, myself, am a Libertarian. Once, an atheist supporter asserted it is important WHY people embrace liberty. I disagreed. As a political activist, I do not...
  8. Wrangler

    Acts 20:28 and The Deity of Jesus Christ

    Why do you suppose a mere human being cannot manifest God in the flesh? Isn't that what is Christians are supposed to do?
  9. Wrangler

    Putin's Russia, A Communist Dictatorship Or Christian Nation?

    Can't justify it, so you copy and paste an article from the morally decadent John McCain? We can all use our search engine to read stuff. I'm on this forum for discussion. You write 'Putin has adopted some good things to stay in power' but this thread is not about engaging in personal attack on...
  10. Wrangler

    Putin's Russia, A Communist Dictatorship Or Christian Nation?

    How do you justify claiming 'his cold-blooded mass murders?'
  11. Wrangler

    For Those Who Deny Jesus Christ IS Almighty God

    This is a great example of imposing trinitarian doctrine onto unitarian text. Where do you get the idea that Isaiah 9:6 is a Messianic passage since the Jews for 1,000's of years recognized it did not? Excerpts from Isaiah 9:6 – The Child Is Not “God” 1. The Hebrew word “El gibor” is not only...
  12. Wrangler

    For Those Who Deny Jesus Christ IS Almighty God

    Regarding being outdated; Son, fundamental debates are never one and done. Every generation has to decide for itself how to live and what is true and right. The man-is-God thesis is the cause for Original Sin and was shown to be incorrect then and every time since - except when Roman emperor's...
  13. Wrangler

    Questions For JW's

    I am convinced there is only one right way to interpret Scripture, Spirit led. And I believe the Spirit can lead anyone from any denomination, reading any translation. I am generally anti-KJV but admit that some verses I have committed to memory only in the KJV translation. It is fine for us...
  14. Wrangler

    For Those Who Deny Jesus Christ IS Almighty God

    Dualism. Less in any way is not equal. God does not have a human component. Jesus is explicitly said in Scripture to be a man.
  15. Wrangler

    Hallowed Be Thy Name

    Sons are made. To invoke the notion of an unmade son is to destroy the concept of what it means to be a son. My father, dressed up in the form of Howdy Doody, does not a son make. The Father incarnate is still not a son. They want you to accept when the say "son" they mean the Father incarnate...
  16. Wrangler

    Hallowed Be Thy Name

    Yes but not in the relevant Ex 3:15 under discussion. It is telling that even in the KJV, Ex 3:15 refers to God in his wholeness, in his unitarian nature - and not the trinitarian made up 'godhead.' The books of the NT you referenced where the distortion took place (of replacing god with 'god...
  17. Wrangler

    Hallowed Be Thy Name

    In another thread, a trinitarian asserted YHWH refers to the ‘Godhead.’ What do you think of this?
  18. Wrangler

    Hallowed Be Thy Name

    Coincidently, in todays Devotional Reading of John 11, the NRSV study notes said such thinking was a Jewish tradition by the 1st century. As you point out, tradition is not Scripture. Many rely on to be absent from the body is to be present with the lord. I don’t think it holds up to scrutiny.
  19. Wrangler

    Questions For JW's

    I confess I was surprised to see this one. Many here seem to have sharp criticism of the JW translation. Can you elaborate on why this is a helpful tip in no 'making you a life-long slave to the Watchtower Society?'
  20. Wrangler

    Submission Of The Wife: How Serious A Matter Is It?

    If asked my wife to stop doing this many times. And told her point blank to stop several times. Beyond having boundary issues, it is baffling.