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Ouch! Do you kiss your lord with that mouth?

It’s ‘live by the sword,’ isn’t it? You are denying this is a rebuke of initiating violence.

John Lott is a statistician who wrote the book Guns Save Lives. This thread is driven by idealists who condemn the good on the grounds that it is not better. In this world, nothing is perfect. Cars make life better but also kill, maime and pollute. Medicine save lives but also some get...

Let me say it again The world was, is and always will be ruled by the effective use of violence and only an idealist could deny it.

1st, Nonsequitor. It's irrelevant what portion of Scripture you referenced since I demonstrated THE WHOLE BOOK justifies violence. 2nd, Appeal to Diversion. You ignored the foundation of reality in this world. 3rd, The fatal flaw of your argument. Others have said it. Fact is, criminals...

Not really an answer to my question. There is no verse that says there is on God consisting of the F, S & HS. A reasonable person, without a doctrinal axe to grind, take 1 COR 8:6 as it reads, only the Father is God. How about divining this idea: There is one God, the Father AND he gives his...

I'm so glad I put him on ignore.

How do you read ‘For us, there is one God, the Father?’ 1 COR 8:6. It is hard to construct a stronger anti-trinitarian statement.

Me too. I recall the priest giving the impression that even a copy we might touch is too holy as it’s contents can hardly be understood by the greatest theologians over 1,000’s of years, let alone a layman. Additionally, our desire to read it ourselves WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF A PRIEST reveals a...

Wow! What Bible are you reading? Off the top of my head, God kicked man out of Eden; Joshua’s conquest of Canaan at God’s command; David killing Goliath and taking back the kingdom from his traitorous son Absolom; the book ends with Jesus return as a military conqueror. Even Jesus went berserk...

I’m not sure what thread it was but the other day someone rebuked the Appeal to Strawman of ‘only’. It is a simple fact that any title is ‘only’ a title and it adds no value to say so, e.g., president. But no one is only the title they hold. Generally, you refer to someone by their highest...

The best translation is the one that brings you closer to God.

If Jesus were God incarnate who merely took on the form of a man and only appeared to die, it has no theological significance at all, for God is all powerful and can do anything. 1 Timothy 2:5 (NLT) There is one God and one Mediator who can reconcile God and humanity—the man Christ Jesus...

It is sad that trinitarians equate not accepting Jesus as God as not respecting the Savior of the World properly, as if that is a title of put down.

Not an answer to my question. Trinitarians cannot answer such questions because it reveals their contradictions or double standards. If Jesus is God because he came from God, then everything is God because everything came from God. The proposition is ridiculous and trinitarians have no where...

LOL Nothing there says Jesus is God. Trinitarians know this and why they have to resort to verses that talk of reflections, forms, and image. When you look into a mirror, it reflects your image but it is still not you. This is as clear as a bell: For us, there is one God, the Father.’ 1 COR 8:6

Even here, the doctrine remains inherently contradictory. Exclusivity applies when one says X is Y and not equal to X is part of Y. Stated mathematically 1=1 1 = 1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 1 <> 1+1+1 So, we can say the Father is God because Scripture explicitly says that over and over again. But we...

Same here! Except the grandmother part, they were both devout Catholics. In CCD, we were not taught out of the Bible but a thing of man called a catechism.

This is yet another example of losing the argument and having to resort to some kind of gratuitous and personal attack of a group (in this case, Mormons).

You do realize ‘the Son of God’ is a title. Right? Acts 17:31 informs us that God (in his unitarian nature) selected the man Jesus. This is not the language of kinship. This is not the language of self-selection of a deity.