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  1. Wrangler

    For those who think Jesus is God - Why is that important?

    One is not 1 who died and another one who raised him back to life. Sad that all you can do to make up for quality of thought for copy and paste diversion, completely unable to answer the question. The reason it is important to believe Jesus is God (and violate 1C, the Shema and giving all...
  2. Wrangler

    For those who think Jesus is God - Why is that important?

    Including the first born of all Creation, right? Your claim of Nature(s) not God is connected with math. For dualists like you 1 + 1 = 1.
  3. Wrangler

    For those who think Jesus is God - Why is that important?

    You are adding your doctrine to what Scripture says. Math is not your strong suit in suggesting 2 natures. Such mystical dualism is how trinitarianism seeks to escape logic. The Bible repeatedly says Jesus is a man. Not one time does Scripture say half his nature is man Not one time does...
  4. Wrangler

    For those who think Jesus is God - Why is that important?

    Not once is this true and rather than admit, you resort to some kind of personal attack. Christophany. The son of Christophany. Not the same being. If you are interpreting them as the same, it is your reading comprehension rather than what Scripture actually says. Owner (God). Property owned...
  5. Wrangler

    For those who think Jesus is God - Why is that important?

    True but not the point of this thread. Do you realize the impossibility of God being Jesus in this sentence? NOTE: It does not say God gave himself or God became incarnate. It is a matter of basic reading comprehension. There are subjects of a sentence and objects of a sentence. The subject...
  6. Wrangler

    What is the most important decision you will have to make in life?

    The most important decision anyone has to make, the most basic decision, is the decision to THINK. To not be driven by one's emotions, peer pressure, coercion or propaganda, like NPC (meme), etc. Socrates said, "The unexamined life is not worth living." Truer words were never spoken! Scripture...
  7. Wrangler

    A Discussion About Truth

    My question is a line of inquiry that did not occur to me until I saw the pic is all. This thread, Truth, is about as general as one can get and can go in many directions, including the 4th century man-made doctrine. I've been thinking of starting another thread on this but one truth that I...
  8. Wrangler

    The real Jesus

    I did answer. Did you consult a lexicon? Death is the end of life. Jesus death on the cross means his life ended on the cross. This transformation, this change, is not an attribute of a deity. The fact that Jesus died is proof text he is not God. In fact Acts 3:15 and many other verses point...
  9. Wrangler

    A Discussion About Truth

    Oh. Sorry. I haven't followed this thread very closely lately. I saw the pic and replied.
  10. Wrangler

    The real Jesus

    NOTICE, the lowercase lord? In Scripture, capital LORD is synonymous with God. Lowercase Lord pertains to dozens. In referencing 1 COR 8:6, you left out the beginning of the verse. Not only does the beginning of the verse explicitly identify the Father as the one God ... It also clarifies...
  11. Wrangler

    The Insanity of the "right" to have guns!

    Not relevant to the God-given right of self defense.
  12. Wrangler

    A Discussion About Truth

    If Jesus were God, why is it important to come to the Father? It's odd that a triune being would parse hisself like that. Or parse himself ever, including this. Yet, there are many such verses. 1 Corinthians 15:27 For the Scriptures say, “God has put all things under his authority.”[a] (Of...
  13. Wrangler

    The real Jesus

    No! There are dozens of lords in Scripture and Jesus is one. He is the sole master of those who follow him. This does not make him the Creator of all. See Psalm 110:1.
  14. Wrangler

    The real Jesus

    Agh, the word game ploy. Dead means the end of life, not a type of ongoing life. Feel free to consult your favorite lexicon.
  15. Wrangler

    The real Jesus

    This is an exclamation not a statement of fact. When I drop my toast, butter side down, I am not actually making the claim that my toast is feces.:p
  16. Wrangler

    The real Jesus

    Right. That God is the Father, not Jesus, is OT & NT knowledge. 'For us, there is one God, the Father.' 1 COR 8:6 The problem is, you are starting with your doctrine - not found anywhere in Scripture - and trying to impose it onto text that does not support it. So, you have to resort to...
  17. Wrangler

    The real Jesus

    Just because Being B looks like Being A does not mean they are the same Being. Trinitarians always have to make these bizarre assumptions because the explicit words of Scripture goes against their doctrine. Jesus said he has a God, who is the only true God and he never taught the trinity...
  18. Wrangler

    The real Jesus

    Dead is dead. Scripture does not say part of him died. You are adding to Gods word to fit your doctrine.
  19. Wrangler

    The real Jesus

    No. Logic is not your strong suit Mr Next. P1.The lord God is spirit. P2. Jesus is a man, flesh. C. Jesus is not God You are deliberating confusing ‘the’ with ‘my’ or ‘our’ lord. The lord created the universe. Our lord is the firstborn of said creation. Hope this help Mr. Next.
  20. Wrangler

    The real Jesus

    Right. Reflecting the LORD God YHWH does not make Jesus or us God.