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If you're saying that sin and the sin nature are not the same thing... I agree.

That's a rather horrifying thought! After all the books and lessons I've gone through and still know practically nothing...

Are you Catholic? That's Christian. My question to you still stands... are you slightly Buddhist? Catholics DO NOT believe in re-incarnation -- not now and not at the beginning of the CC. 1. We, as children of God, are definitely inspired by God and helped by the Holy Spirit. Different folk...

No. I'm talking about the Church. Jesus meant to set up a Kingdom, not a church. Although that is also necessary, IMO. The Kingdom on earth is the Church.

Well, if you have the company of .01% of all Christians, what makes you believe YOU are correct? Is it possible that all theologians are wrong and only you are right? You want me to "take a crack" at what the tree of Knowledge was? And it's fruit? Why don't YOU take a crack at it? As far as...

MY definition of God? God is already defined -- I didn't define Him. You think Jesus was born with the sin nature and sin? 1 Peter 2:22 2 Corinthians 5:21 1 John 3:5 John 8:29 1 Peter 1:18-19 I know. This word "temptation" causes problems. Temptation in and of itself does not mean that...

@twinc BTW, WHAT is a false Christian? (in your understanding)

Oh my goodness. Please don't tell me you're learning about Christianity from google!

Start with who the original sheep are. Who do you think they are? Everything you posted in your OP is correct. Where's the problem??

@Rollo Tamasi I think it's Job's turn?

Jesus became meat for US.

What are you talking about? Are you half Christian and half Buddhist??

He was so proud to pick a difficult one!! I'm really confused. If you have Youtube, write in Criss Cross full movie. You'll get two choice: one is the above, black and white, and the other one is in color,,,not the color one (of course). I did look up movies by Burt Lancaster. And we wouldn't...

I don't understand. It propagated the law of sin and death. OK. We are now born with the sin nature due to the disobedience. OK. What am I crediting to O.S.? The law of sin and death? If yes, I agree.

Let's say you want to join some club or other. You'd have to fill out an application. Let's say you want to join the Kingdom of God here on earth. You have to fill out an application AND follow all the rules. See bb, no matter what you think or anybody here, the truth is the truth. If you...

Job, I just watched the movie on youtube! I cheated a little bit. Don't tell. Nobody would ever get it anyway. It's called Criss Cross with Burt Lancaster and Yvonne De Carlo. So, YOU could go, I guess.

I didn't catch that Amadeus. Actually @tabletalk is correct. This is not something to be debated. Is milk white? Jesus was born without sin and without the sin nature. How could God have the sin nature? No support is necessary. IF He had the sin nature, He would have sinned sooner or later...

I'm so sorry I don't please you.

Ummmm. Maybe it went this way because you're wrong? But it has nothing to do with your salvation, so believe what you will. I just hope new Christians reading along don't get mixed up. P.S. And what's so clear about this verse? You have to know some history and theology to know what it means...

Oh yeah. Do they accept Jesus as God? No. Then how could they be of the fold?