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Hi Oz, I always believed that water referred to birth because of the words "that which is born of the flesh is flesh, but that which is born of spirit is spirit". Also, BORN AGAIN. A person is born ONCE, and then they are born a second time... in the spirit. Posting Ezekiel helped me, but...

Yes. But this isn't where I was headed. So, here's how it is... I say it's necessary to obey God and do the works we are to do. I'm told the law is abolished and works are not necessary because we are now under grace and not the law. So I ask for a verse that says we are no longer required to...

Right. The story of Henry and Jane Fonda's story, as per her. They ended up in peace at the end of his life. OK. You go.

OK. Understanding about the leaven is easy. What about what I underlined? We were discussing WHAT is to be remembered. Then you speak of the first month. Are you saying we should remember Jesus' death only one time per year at the appointed time? (which I'm not sure what it is) I always...

Agreed also on the above. Just want to add that the ceremonial law was abolished and also the civil law. For instance, Moses allowed Divorce Certificates, but Jesus did not. As for Moral Law (the 10 commandments and any other law pertaining to morality) that has not been abolished. In fact...

Right. Of course he didn't. (the sin nature, I mean) Which also would have meant that God created sin. As far as Jesus, HE did not have a sin nature. The only person ever because He was also fully God so sin could not exist in God.

Ben Affleck.

Easy! Good Will Hunting. Matt Damon and... and... can't think of his name right now.

I'm not familiar with Revelation, except for very few verses. But as to the Tree of Life in the Garden...yes, there was one. Are you saying there wasn't??

I already posted this??? I don't have enough time to spend on here.. Sorry. Should I go again? No. YOU go.

You cover a lot of territory up there. If you believe God created sin then you have no problem with Adam and Eve having a sin nature BEFORE they ate. I just want you to know that this is not traditional Christianity. I don't know from where you got this idea. As for babies: Did I say they...

Hi Speedy, Thanks for posting. Actually, we did have a conversation some time ago. What you say is true. IJ' Thanks for posting this. I'm VERY happy you left Christian Science. It probably wasn't easy for you to do this. I've heard that they just don't want anyone to leave. Much as the JW's...

Right. There's so much in the story of A and E. God tries to make life easy for us, we insist on making it difficut. Adam didn't obey the Covenant, so his life became difficult. Satan and the angels were always immortal. Man is different. As you've stated. I learned about the preternatural...

It's PREDATOR. With Arnnie. Pretty gory stuff, but I did liked it back when it came out. MY TURN...

Well P Looks like some of us are trying really hard to hang on to scripture. Although it's true that these grace preachers say that we are not to sin, they don't really make a point of it, do they??? Grace, grace, grace, Love, love, love, God is also Just, just just. But they'd like to forget...

What a great post! I remember this now. I agree with all you've said. Just two points: I agree with ongoing justification, which Protestants call Sanctification. Some seem to believe that they are saved one time, as you've stated, and that's it. Nothing further required. I often explain...

Hi Kepha, I'm here from that other thread. Can't remember the name, but you linked it to here. Are you feeling better now!! Personally, I dislike Calvin the most. Those people are serving a different God -- not the one I know. I've always had difficulty with how we Protestants explain...

Hi Copperhead, Just sitting here, tired, reading through. Your conversation with Kepha is interesting because you're both right! Your right with the idea that purgatory is a place of cleansing and purification. The CC believes we need to be perfect before going to heaven so purgatory takes...

If I understand how you mean this, then I agree.