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  1. Wrangler

    Why People Don't Believe: Sex & Time

    Symbolically advocate for the Sun of homosexuality? There has to be a compelling response to people who don’t believe because of the time and sex contradictions. Given homosexuality is a sin, why symbolically suggest it?
  2. Wrangler

    Why People Don't Believe: Sex & Time

    AS IF marriage is for any other reason than sex and life (through time via descendants).
  3. Wrangler

    Jehovah is either God or He is not, correct?

    Complete and total departure from reality. The meaning of Elohim has been explained many times. It does not literally mean trinity. It means heavenly being. you cannot believe what you’re saying if there was an ounce of truth to it Hebrews would’ve been trinitarians since thousands of years BC...
  4. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    Absolutely not! I pray to God, who alone is the Father, in the name of Jesus. Why do you deny 1 Cor 11:3? NOTE: God, in his unitarian nature, is the head of Christ. Why would you worship someone besides God?
  5. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    Not almost. ;) They have to continue to make such desperate attempts to support their doctrine because the trinity is simply not an explicit teaching in the Bible.
  6. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    Plain language disproves the trinity again! In the above sentence, God - in his unitarian nature - is the subject of the sentence. The object of the sentence is another being, His Son. Not once does Scripture refer to Jesus as God the Son. Scripture explicitly refers to Jesus as being of God...
  7. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    You are making the mistake of confusing Christians as trinitarians. If you follow Christ, why do you deny his teaching to pray to the Father alone, to worship the Father alone? Jesus did not teach us to pray to a trinitarian God! I am a Christian who follows Christ, not a 4th century man-made...
  8. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    They didn't respond to this when you mentioned it before and I doubt they will now for it makes them look foolish. They cannot acknowledge this great verse - unless they apply they same duality rational they did to John 17:3. Just because Jesus plainly states, "the true worshipers shall worship...
  9. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    The KJV's most notorious corruption. This is not what this verse says in actuality.
  10. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    So, by your standard, merely mentioning them makes them a 3-person-1-being God? If so, you must accept we have a 7-being-1 being God @ Rev 1:4. Grace and peace to you from the one who is, who always was, and who is still to come; from the sevenfold Spirit before his throne And at the same time...
  11. Wrangler

    Why People Don't Believe: Sex & Time

    Agreed. That is not the point. The point is how do you reconcile the prohibition against homosexuality with men comprising some of the Bride & Wife of Christ?
  12. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    Figurative language is what you are denying. Explicit language you are also denying. John tells us explicitly in 20:31 that nothing he wrote can be used to support the notion that Jesus is God incarnate because everything he wrote was to support that Jesus is God's Anointed.
  13. Wrangler

    Jehovah is either God or He is not, correct?

    This is one reason I like the VOICE translation; it makes explicit who is doing the talking. It is Jehovah or the LORD or God speaking. What I find strange is the absence of comma's: Ex 20:5 ESV: I the LORD your God am a jealous God In modern English would be I, the LORD your God, am a...
  14. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    Agreed. Well said.
  15. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    Because we see the hierarchical relationship in 1 Cor 11:3 - with no mention of the HS, etc.
  16. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    LOL See how trinitarians are forced to rely on vague verses to support your doctrine? I believe completely Jesus is the ‘He’ who he explicitly said he was at Mark 14:61-62, ‘I am’ to the question of being not God incarnate but God’s Anointed, the Liberating King,the Son of the Blessed One...
  17. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    No, it wasn’t. Proof is you doubling down on it below. Well, since your view is a minority on Earth you should question it based on your own logic of appealing to majority.
  18. Wrangler

    Jehovah is either God or He is not, correct?

    No. It's just that trinitarians assert singular pronouns refer to 3.
  19. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    There was already a brilliant analysis posted in this thread of agency. I suggest you read it. If I use my sister's key, that does not make me my sister. This is the absurd rationalization trinitarians must adopt to work around the fact that the trinity is not in the Bible. There simply is no...
  20. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    100% Contradiction. Duality "also" is the basis of trinitarianism. John 20:31 clearly states that nothing in his Gospel can be used to prove that Jesus is God as all of his Gospel is to prove something else; namely, that Jesus is the Son of God. But there is that temptation to appeal to...