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If you were truly Gods church, and gods representatives on earth and appointed by God through christs representative on earth You would not have your history..Because if it was led by christ as you say/ then Christ would not allow the nonsense that went on..and the evil that went on.

No this is not true we get in christ by being Baptized INTO CHRIST Only God can baptize us into christ, it it does not happen by a man baptizing us in water. That is a totally different baptism.

God did If you studied the word, you would realise that Thats not hat the word says Ephesians 1:11 In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things according to the counsel of His will I recommend you let go and give it all...

lol.. Just like in another thread. We do not use history to claim that we are the one church, we use the word of God. So she is right in one area. we will find out when we die.. I would rather trust the word. then history written by men.

your argument falls on its face the protestant church is not claiming infalibity. and that the vicar of Christ is Christs representatives. and that the church represents Christ Non of the men you mentioned make claims your church does. so they do not fit.

it is.. But it keeps them from seeing the truth

people forget. History is written by those in charge since the romans were in charge for many a century, you would expect history to support them yet that is the downfall. should history, written by men, who skew histroy to support them, trump the word of God written by God and written to...

they want us to look at history.. yet somehow they can look at their history with a straight face..

yes, I have her on ignore. But I opened her post since you were responding to her

did she say something to you about differentiating sin? Is it not her church that calls some sins venial and some sins mortal?

It means my status as Gods child has not changed. The inheritance I was given remains mine. all of those things I mentioned ar the most important things we will ever get. It is what gives us security and the means for us growing spiritually. in other words.. In christ i am the same as far as...

what bible do you read? For god so loved the world he gave his only begotten son THAT WHOEVER believes in him shall never perish but has eternal life? No God decides whoever believes is not condemned, who ever does nto believe is condemned already the penalty of sin is death, the gift of...

yes, we as adopted children of God But if we sare not yet adopted. Not yet justified. not yet given eternal life. we have no new man to put on..

your reading an english translation. Read in the greek. It does not say they will never commit a sin again. John would be contradicting himself. as he said if we say we have no sin we are decieved are you sinless?? Do you live up to the standard you are here trying to tell me I must live up...

he died for the penalty. because if he did not. We would all end up in Hell how many times do I have to post that the penalty of sin is death, the gift of God is life. Jesus told us how.. The law of love Paul told us how. seek after the things of the spirit But if your not born again, Not...

I see she has not changed.. they will do that too you. Its why I placed her on ignore

Just pray others see this, and they then see what is going on and walk away. or try to help the person like we have.

Again, You need to read your own words. Your the one who is all about works and self assurance. Not us. You reject grace and try to insert your own righteousness, your assurance is in your self.. Again you slander people.. I pray people see everything you are doing..

The apostle john says whoever lives in sin has neither known or seen God Whoever has been born of God can not live in sin Notice in the passage you gave, These people went to God and tried to use their works as a means of why God should let them in. What did Jesus say. Depart you who practice...

so our eternal REDEMPTION AND JUSTIFICATION based on the cross is laughable? Tell that to God Nope. Your the one who says we are saved by our efforts. Not me.. Once again you slander I would say based on ignorance. But you have been shows so many times in the past few years. You can not claim...