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  1. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    So your a car? Or are you a new child, who comes out as a baby. and spend your whole life growing? Why did paul call the corinthian church babes, if they were perfectly mature christiand who di dnot need to grow Why are we told to grow in truth and knowledge I am not sure what bible you...
  2. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    So your not in Christ? (positional sanctification) Seems like you just want to argue. Believe whatever you want my friend. I just pray you come to your senses about your sin soon.
  3. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    once again, there is positional sanctification. we are sanctified then their is christian growth or conditional sanctification. As shown all through the NT. A babe in christ is not as sanctified as an adult in Christ. why you would think otherwise is beyond me. CHristian grown is ongoing and...
  4. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    There is an issue with this thinking It says the work of perfecting forever is completed now. Not in the future when we die. and the act of sanctification is ongoing
  5. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Oh I did did I? No. I actually look up the greek words. Then instead of just looking up the definition. I looked up how they was written..I actually have a very good origional language library, You should not assume things my friend.. I made the case, whether you buy it or not is not on me...
  6. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    that is a bad translation and does not fit the greek Unless it, like perfected, Made holy or sanctified is perfect active indicative (a completed action) it is not yet completed..
  7. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Made holy fails also it would be more accurate to say ongoing or being made holy present tense passive is the word used. at any time in the present, God is passivly sanctifying us..
  8. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Notice how you just skipped over the actual greek words used. I guess you did not like that they proved you wrong..
  9. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    if we were talking about eating the flesh and blood, You may have a point, but we are not..
  10. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    actually it is from the NKJV the word perfected is perfect, active indicative, a completed action the word sanctified is present passive, it is in the present time (ongoing) action of God acting on us to sanctify us. Unlike perfected, which is a completed act. Your english bible has failed...
  11. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    There are no jews in the new covenant Romans 9:24 even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles? Romans 3:29 Or is He the God of the Jews only? Is He not also the God of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also, Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, there is...
  12. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    John 17:3 And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Titus 1:2 in hope of eternal life which God, who cannot lie, promised...
  13. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    I gave you mu thoughts Are you ever going to tell me why Paul and Jesus lied?
  14. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Yep. As does every other person I have met. You do it also, you just deny it. You can claim you have no sin all you want. I will never believe it..
  15. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    lol Yes, we are positionally sanctified. Also called justified. Also called being in christ. But at the same time we are being sanctified. Its all right here in Hebrews Hebrews 10:14 For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified. I am perfected forever. While...
  16. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    um, no he was not. This is a sadly misrepresentation of pauls words. He spoke of the struggle he and all of us (if we are honest with ourselves) struggle with. He was set free from the penalty of sin and death (law) but it does not mean he no longer struggles with his flesh.. I pray you do...
  17. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    I am part of the abrahamic covenant - In you shall all the nations be blessed. Where there is no jew, gentile male female etc etc. The sabbath was given to Israel.
  18. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    1. I am justified forever (eternal life, seal of there spirit, perfected forever) 2. I am being transformed (sanctified) as Gods work is ongoing, but will be completed, I am being sanctified by him who perfected me forever 3. I will be glorified. Your mixing 1 and 2 and claiming final...
  19. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Then we are under law not grace my friend. The moment we are justified is the end of the gospel. everything after is our ongoing sanctification as we grow from babes in christ to mature believers
  20. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    5 not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, 6