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  1. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    do you agree or disagree. You still have failed to meet Gods standard? Eternal life is eternal not conditional When Jesus said we will never die, he meant it When paul said he who began a good work WILL COMPLETE IT. It means he will complete it? I have no desire to discuss what other people...
  2. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    James did not contradict paul. People need to look at WHO james spoke to. Then look at WHO paul spoke to. They would see the reason the appear to contradict when they do not. There is no such thing as a workless faith.. Licentiousness never saved anyone However. we do not go 180 degrees...
  3. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    It does not offend me, Jesus was telling them how to get to heaven according to the law. He tried to show them they failed. Sadly they never got it.. sorry bro. I don't pump my chest like pharisee thinking I am something I am not and denying my own sin. You do what you want.
  4. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Not even sure how stopping sinning came into the picture. Paul adminished them because they added works to the gospel of grace, period. I want to stop sinning also.. But that has no bearing on my salvation. Lets add the word baptized in place of circumcision. or how about giving, or church...
  5. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    I am sorry we are all not as perfect as you my friend. Many of us, Like Myself. Look to Christ for power. but we are not foolsih enough (on our minds) to think we have made it. Because like paul. We continue to run the race knowing we have not arrived yet. Paul struggled with Pride. His whole...
  6. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Your no different. there was nothing wrong with circumcision, or doing works of the law. The issue was they were trying to add them to the gospel as required for salvation. The law taught that these works must be done to be saved, failure would cause you to lose favor. and you would need to...
  7. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Excuse me sir. But paul said present tense. I do not do what I want to do. He did not say, I did not do what I want to do. and I did not do what I wanted to do. He is talking about the struggle we all have. I don;t know. maybe you do not stuggle with it? If that's the case. Your the first...
  8. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    so should I make the bible contradict? Or take the word as a whole and make it flow smoothly? The verses you give cause the verses I give you to contradict. I can explain why they appear to contradict. Why can't you?
  9. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    sadly, when your self focused. You have no ability to actually discuss with others what they belief, and your left with no option bit to attack,
  10. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    A Sunday school teacher when I was a teen used the example of a cookie in a cookie jar. Dont mention it and the kid will not be tempted to steal. He will ask. Mention it and make it off limits. the kid will do what he can to steel the cookie. The law stirs up the desire in our flesh to do...
  11. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    I Am saddened by those who do not believe God will complete what HE started., and think somehow it comes from them. Thats religion 101. Satan's greatest lie
  12. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Paul also said that I DO NOT WANT TO DO, I DO. that I want to do I CAN NOT DO. Your constant rejection of the truth and badgering people with false truths about what they believe is not winning you any brownie points my friend. You Sin yourself. So you can't judge other people because they...
  13. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    This is phariseeism at its finest. This is saying we begin in the spirit. But must perfect in the flesh Jesus said we will never die. You do not agree with Jesus. There is nothing more anyone has to say. Good luck my friend.
  14. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    I do not belong to Israel. Nice try
  15. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    paul lied in eph 2, In titus 3. Jesus lied in John 3. Dude you think you can earn salvation. Good luck This is what paul thinks’ 3 O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you that you should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed among you as crucified? 2 This...
  16. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Show that after acts
  17. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    There is an issue with your thinking OSAS does not WANT TO SIN. If we do not want to sin (see paul ROmans 7 he felt the same way) then you cant claim we want to sin all we want.
  18. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Why would I retract what I said. the penalty of sin is death. It does not say the penalty of only these sins is death. What I want to know is why you think you are better than others. When God looks at you as a sinner who is deserving of his judgment. Of course he provided a way for you. All...
  19. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    well thanks for your OPINION But I want fact.. The sabaath was a day of rest. Not a day of worship. I take the day of rest. and strive because it is for my benefit. What days I worship in church is no concern to you and God does not care
  20. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    I explained what Moses, God (who told moses to write it down) and paul said it was. Not what I think it is. You should be careful in accusing. ahh, the excuse my sin nonsense. Unless you are sinning, You excuse your sin also. There is a difference between acknowledging I will continue to...