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All of your shouting aside - I am trying to understand how you people, who think that the Catholic Church is this "evil" entity - the "whore of Balylon" - yet you accept the Canon of Scripture that they declared to the world under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. How can you justify that?

That statement is a ludicrous as it is ignorant. What is true will ALWAYS be true. As a Protestant, you have marinated yourself so long in relativism that you can't discern truth.

None of what you posted in post #2448 proves me "wrong" at all. It only bolsters the Catholic position as to what the Church is.

No - you were being dishonest because you said that the Catholic Church considered itself to be the sole authority for the canonization of Scripture. The Church gives ALL the credit and glory to the Holy Spirit - not itself. You dodged my question - so here it is again: Why would you adhere to...

Jesus gave His Church SUPREME earthly Authority. That WHATEVER His Church declared on earth would also be ordained in Heaven Matt. 16:18-29, Matt. 18:15-18, John 16:12-15, John 20:21-23). That WHOEVER accepted or rejected what His Church taught - accepted or rejected God Himself (Luke...

And there you have the poisonous fruit of Protestantism. God doesn't reveal His truth to each individual devoid of a Church. Jesus left us with the Authority of His Church to teach the world (Matt. 28:16-20) - that whoever accepted or rejected what that Church taught accepted or rejected God...

And what happens when 2 or more people disagree with the rest and claim that the Holy Spirit guided them down a different road. WHO is right??

Ummmm, and that's why Jesus promised that the HOLY SPIRIT would Guide His Church to all truth. He didn't give that promise to the tens of thousands of disjointed and perpetually-splintering and man-made sects of Protestantism. God reveals the truth to His Church through the Holy Spirit - not...

- Jesus established ONE Church (Matt. 16:16-19). He prayed fervently that this Church remain ONE - as He and the Father are ONE (John 17:20-23). There is NO other. - Jesus is Truth itself (John 14:6). - Jesus promised His Church that the Holy Spirit would guide her to ALL Truth (John...

And Jesus reiterated it. YOU stated that He never said that.

Then you don't know Christ's Church. Paul says emphatically in Eph. 1:22-23 that Christ's Church is the fullness of Him - who is Truth itself (John 14:6).

That's because the truth doesn't change just because you want it to . . .

Jesus didn't build His Church on "perfect" people. Since you don't seem to understand what the Church is -allow me to educate you: It is NOT a museum of perfect people - but a hospital for sinners.

Mark 12:28-31 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: And...

I HOPE it's just the furnace - for YOUR sake . . .

Peter ALSO fell asleep when Jesus was praying in the Garden - but Jesus built the Church on him.

Actually - the second command from Jesus there is not relegated exclusively to fellow Church members. It refers to ALL people.

The fact that YOU don't see that He was speaking ONLY to Peter in Matt. 16:18-19 is astounding. Nobody else who was present there at Cesarea-Philippi had their name changed to "Rock" (Kepha). Many of your Protestant scholars no longer live in the denial that YOU and others here do and agree...

Just giving you a little Scripture lesson on what the Church actually is because you don't seem to be able to grasp the concept.

Whew - this is like talking to a wall . . . You keep making the moronic claim that I have "chosen" Peter over Christ. That is not only a lie - it's complete ignorance of what the Church has taught for 2000 years. The bottom line here is that you have absolutely zero grasp of what Christ's...