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TRANSLATION: "I incorrectly used the terms "red herring" and "straw man" - and you caught me."

Uhhh, no - that was written in response to mjrhealth's post - not yours.

Good - can you point to the "red herring" or "straw man" in the historical fact that the Catholic Church compiled and declared the Canon of the New Testament? This should be interesting . . .

The Canon of the New Testament was compiled and declared by the Catholic Church. Why on earth would a person like you, who claims the Church is "evil" agree with that Canon of Scripture?? Can YOU say, "Hypocrisy"??

And there you go again quoting the Catholic Canon of Scripture. Respond when you have something useful to add to the conversation . . .

That's not what I'm saying at all. This all started because somebody was claiming that the Catholic Church taught something that it didn't. I told them that if they want to know what the Church teaches - then go to a primary source like the Catechism and not wikipedia.

I find it fascinating how you people don't understand that it is a primary source for Catholic teaching - just as the Constitution is a primary source for U.S. Law. If you want to know how the Government is structures - you go to the Constitution. If you want to know what the Catholic Church...

How does the Catechism put Catholicism "outside" of Christianity? Please enlighten me . . .

The Catechism is a PRIMARY source for learning what the Church teaches. Again - the whole point is that when you are going to talk about what the Catholic Church believes in and teaches - you must go to the Catechism and not a Jack Chick tract . . .

In other words - you have nothing useful to add to the conversation. That's what I thought . . .

What I said is not "stupid". I was holding YOU accountable for what YOU said. The entire premise of your original remark that "NO ONE" will believe is what is stupid. As for Psalms 14 and Romans 3 - they are using inclusive language. You are a Scriptural literalist and, therefore, blind to...

Do you even know what "apostate" means??

Spoken like another ignorant ex-Catholic. The Catholic Church is the Mystical Body of Christ, whom He said the gates of Hell would not prevail against. Your problem is that you think Jesus is a liar . . .

And which one would that be? It couldn't be the Vatican - which does NOT reside on one of the Seven Hills of Rome. The Seven Hills are: 1. Aventine Hill 2. Caelian Hill 3. Capitoline Hill 4. Esquiline Hill 5. Palatine Hill 6. Quirinal Hill 7. Viminal Hill Vatican Hill is across the Tiber from...

??? Would you mind clarifying that statement?

Thank God it's not up to YOU to decide who is saved and who is not . . .

Ummm, not from what I've read of your posts . . .

HUH?? I said that the Catechism is a PRIMARY document - not a secondary one. My whole point was that if you are going to attempt to declare what the Catholic Church teaches, you must go to a the PRIMARY source, which is the Catechism. This is where you will find out what the Church teaches -...

In John 14, Jesus is speaking to the TWELVE - not to the crowds. He is speaking to the leaders of His Church. He reiterated this promise at the Last Supper: John 16:12-15 “I have much more to tell you, but you cannot bear it now. But when he comes, the Spirit of truth, he will guide you to ALL...

Sure - but YOU said: "The problem with the title of this thread is that NO ONE will believe. Man is sold out to his sins and he is a servant to Satan." That's not true. We will believe when given the grace to believe. Also - Psalm 14 and Romans 3 are using inclusive language and do not account...