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Sorry - but that's what the text says. EVERY instance in the Gospel where Jesus speaks of His "Sheep" - He is speaking about BORN AGAIN believers.

Show me the verse that says Judas was a devil BEFORE Jesus chose him. It doesn't exist. YOUR problem - besides a terminal case of spiritual pride - is the fact that you argue for the sake of arguing. You are completely out-gunned here by Scripture and you are too prideful to admit it . . .

And to BECOME one of Christ's Sheep - you must be born again. This is talking about BORN AGAIN Sheep who LOST their way. The Prodigal Son is an example of a born again believer who LOSES his way - then repents and regains his salvation.

And that's not what the Bible says. It says that Judas IS a devil - not that he WAS a devil when chosen. And the Bible DOES say that Judas was one of the "Twelve" who cast out demons AND/OR healed the sick. Just admit that Scripture is right and YOU are wrong . . .

Then SHOW me a Gospel precedent where the "Sheep" are shown to be anything OTHER than belonging to Christ. Just ONE verse . . .

That's NOT what it says. It says that Judas IS a devil - now. It doesn't say that he WAS a devil when he was chosen. A devil cannot cast out a demon in the name of Christ or heal the sick.

I already DID in post #271.

Look Stranger - the best thing for you to do at this time is to humble yourself before the Lord - admit that you are wrong and that Scripture has defeated your argument.

But NOT necessarily before He sent out the Twelve to heal the sick and cast out demons . . .

The common denominator is that they all belonged to the master. Show me a Gospel precedent for the "sheep" being illustrated as ANYTHING other than belonging to the Lord. Sorry - but the weight of Scripture is against you. As I told you before - the entire context of Luke 15 is about believers...

Yup - "IS" a devil now - not "WAS" a devil when he was chosen. Thank you for admitting that. MOST anti-Catholics use this verse to denigrate Peter.

Translation: "Woops - I stuck my foot in my mouth and you caught me again!"

WRONG. The Gospel of John is NOT one of the synoptic Gospels and doe NOT correlate in the same chronology as the other 3 Gospels.

NOWHERE does Scripture say that. Jesus said, “Did I not choose you, the twelve? And yet one of you IS a devil.” He didn't say, "And yet one of you WAS a devil." You're playing with the text again . . .

Tell that to God, my arrogant and presumptuous friend . . . Romans 11:22 “See, then, the kindness and severity of God: severity toward those who fell, but God's kindness to you, provided you REMAIN in his kindness; otherwise you to will be cut off.” Hebrews 10:26-27 “If we sin deliberately...

WRONG. You are taking the parable out of its proper context - as you usually do. The entire chapter of Luke 15 is about LOST children of God. It starts out with the Parable of the Lost Sheep. The Gospel tells us over and over who the "Sheep" are. they belong to Christ (John 10:27). Then...

Then explain to me what "gymnastics" I performed other than simply presenting the Greek.. Can you do that?

Where does Scripture say that Judas was "condemned"?

You're playing desperate little games with the text. It says that the TWELVE cast out demons and healed the sick. We know that they ALL did one or the other. We also know WHEN the devil entered Judas (Luke 22:3).

Do you believe, as the Calvinists - that God created Judas just so He could throw him in Hell? Do you believe, as Scripture teaches - that Judas cast out demons and healed the sick (Mark 6:7-3)?