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Not at all. The son clearly rejects his Father and demands his reward up front. It's not until he repents that his reward is restored.

Eph. 2:8-9 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. NO mention of NOT being able to reject God's grace. Try again . . .

WRONG. It IS a story about loss of salvation and the re-acquisition of that salvation.- 1. The man is a SON of the father (i.e, a Christian, saved). 2. The Son forsakes the Father and walks away (loss of salvation). 3. The Son repents and comes back to the Father (redemption).

Look it up yourself. PROVE me wrong. I eagerly await your findings . . .

I'm still waiting for an answer to my post #148, where I asked YOU: You cannot disbelieve by your own doing?? Chapter and verse, please.

It's a story about spiritual death and eventual redemption. You missed half of the point.

No "Greek gymnastics" here - just linguistic facts. You're just embarrassed because the Greek proves you wrong and you have no where to go from here.

I said that we can stop believing by our own DOING. It hasn't happened to me so I can't speak from experience. However, I've known people who were pretty devout - but suffered a tragedy and stopped believing in God. I personally knew one woman who was dying and cursing and blaming God for...

Absolutely. Spiritual death is separation from God. We finally agree . . .

Wrong. The Greek word used here is καταλειπο (kat-al-i'-po), which means: 1) to leave behind; to depart from This speaks to the reality of people on the RIGHT road who veered off track. They WERE walking with God and eventually walked away . . .

You cannot disbelieve by your own doing?? WHERE in the Bible does it make this claim?? Chapter and verse, please.

Sorry - but there is NO Gospel precedent for Jesus referring to "death" that doesn't mean spiritual death. Nice try . . .

And I never said that we could - where are you getting that?? We cannot make ourselves believe by a work - but we can reject God by our own doing.

I'm simply saying what HE said. If I'm lying - then HE was lying.

Try to understand what Jesus was saying. Jesus said he was DEAD. Was he physically dead? No - he was spiritually dead. Jesus said he was LOST. Was he physically lost? No - he was spiritually lost. He was later found and came back to life - SPIRITUALLY. That's the entire point of the...

EVERYTHING Jesus said is true. If He says a person is dead - then they are DEAD - period.

That's absolutely false. We cease to be believers and serve Satan instead.

Where, in his conversion story was he forced to accept God's grace?? NOWHERE.

He came BACK to life. He was FOUND after being "lost". It's really not that difficult to understand . . .

NOWHERE does the Bible ever say that we cannot turn away from God. It warns us over and over NOT to do so.