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  1. Wrangler

    Does God Consult Other Heavenly Beings?

    Yea, let's change the subject to the text of Scripture and the question of the OP.
  2. Wrangler

    Does God Consult Other Heavenly Beings?

    Yet, God presides overly the Heavenly Council.
  3. Wrangler

    Does God Consult Other Heavenly Beings?

    Moses asked God not to destroy the nation of Israel and God listened to Moses. The strangeness of your post is to deny prayer means to ask for something. Why pray if he is not listening, not in the business of answering prayers? It's strange not to consider this, not to ask these questions.
  4. Wrangler

    Does God Consult Other Heavenly Beings?

    Not an answer to my request to explain it. Given that God presides over the Council (Great Assembly, if you prefer), how do you conclude he does not consult them? In addition, the Bible is filled with stories of God taking council from others, like how many righteous people need to be in a city...
  5. Wrangler

    Does God Consult Other Heavenly Beings?

    More importantly, why pray then?
  6. Wrangler

    Trump

    The media certainly wants to paint that image. Fact is, Trump broke the record for most votes for an incumbent president. Disaster. Stunning Success. Not Equal.
  7. Wrangler

    Does God Consult Other Heavenly Beings?

    What then is the meaning of Psalm 82:1?
  8. Wrangler

    Does God Consult Other Heavenly Beings?

    Revealed, the man-made doctrine distracting attention from the actual word of God. The text of GE 1:26 does not say ‘the Father’ but God, in his unitarian nature. Who presides over the heavenly council according to the text of Ps 82:1? God, in his unitarian nature. And what does your post...
  9. Wrangler

    Does God Consult Other Heavenly Beings?

    It goes, not only to God’s nature, but the inter-active relationship he seeks with His Creation.
  10. Wrangler

    Does God Consult Other Heavenly Beings?

    EXACTLY! No doubt a plain reading of Scripture upsets their man-made doctrines. To my way of thinking, the question of the OP is the opposite end of why we pray. The OT, including Psalms, is filled with God answering people’s prayers. Even Jesus asked for the bitter cup to be taken from him...
  11. Wrangler

    Does God Consult Other Heavenly Beings?

    Notice the hostility in the 1st 2 responses. Odd. One thing is to deny it. The hostile motivation is another thing.
  12. Wrangler

    Does God Consult Other Heavenly Beings?

    2 unresponsive but trolling posts.
  13. Wrangler

    Refuting soul sleep, aka dirt nap doctrine

    Your post was lengthy. I’ll give you that. It reminds me of Einstein’s response to so many acclaimed German scientists ‘refuting’ his Theory of Relativity. If their response was valid, it would take only one. Right. Your problem is confusing highly equivocal asserting with refuting. It...
  14. Wrangler

    Refuting soul sleep, aka dirt nap doctrine

    We know. Dude. The Bible is a remarkably figurative book. How can you be so literal? In this mornings Daily Devotional Reading in Jeremiah, God says the people is Isra’el are ‘stiff necked’ I doubt the almighty was providing a medical diagnosis of some kind of genetic defect. Said...
  15. Wrangler

    Refuting soul sleep, aka dirt nap doctrine

    Oh. In that case, your heretical views on the lake of fire and everlasting punishment. Neither are EQUAL to Scriptures directive on how we should treat each other in our SOCIAL roles.
  16. Wrangler

    Refuting soul sleep, aka dirt nap doctrine

    No you didn’t! You didn’t just compare AS EQUAL Scriptures directive on how we should interact with one another in our SOCIAL roles to your heretical view on Soul Sleep?!
  17. Wrangler

    Refuting soul sleep, aka dirt nap doctrine

    Allow me to hazard a guess. Advocating endless torture encourages the masses to be easier to control due to fear. We are seeing the same thing with vaccines ... A little logic: 1. if the vaccines work, the unvaccinated pose no danger. 2. If the vaccines don’t work, why is the push for them...
  18. Wrangler

    Refuting soul sleep, aka dirt nap doctrine

    Yes, different views. And you sadly equate yourself with the almighty in referencing who is offended so as to cut off your arm, etc. I don’t think God is the least bit offended at my embrace of doctrines like Soul Sleep. Steve Ciocolanti, from Discovery Ministries of Australia, said Christians...
  19. Wrangler

    Refuting soul sleep, aka dirt nap doctrine

    Heresy is only a view that opposes your own. While the Bible is true, it is not truth for there are truths not contained in the Bible. @BarnyFife's question reveals the truth the heretics attempt to hide by not answering but instead engage in personal attacks and call names like heretical. If...
  20. Wrangler

    Does God Consult Other Heavenly Beings?

    A study note from NSRV Ex 20:3 speculates the purpose behind the wording is to dispense with the idea of a heavenly council. Yet, Jesus himself invoked Ps 82:6. The True God stands to preside over the heavenly council. He pronounces judgment on the so-called gods. Ps 82:1 Micaiah: 19 You...