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The CEV translation Psalm 82:1 was the verse of the year last year for me. It's the Original Sin all over again! Jesus used v6 to justify calling himself the son of God. Powerful stuff to realize the Bible recognizes that we are all 'gods' (in the Bible sense of being law givers and judges to...

Outstanding question! Undoubtedly, if a trinitarian even attempts to answer this, he will employ mystical dualism where logic is no constraint at all. Supporting the flawed doctrine at all cost to intellectual integrity is what seems to matter to them. And all subsequent believers in the...

Impeccable logic is hostile to flawed arguments. Appeal to Ignorance. One odd argument trinitarians make is this sort of equality of statements, compounded with the supposition that the benefit of the doubt should go to them. What is funny is that in courts of law, statistics and logic, the...

Intent has nothing to do with it. See Axiomatic Analysis.

None of this is true. Jesus declared his Father to be the one true God in John 17:3 and referenced his God many times. Even after he was resurrected. See John 20:17. The only God is Jesus' God. Jesus declared himself to his followers as the long awaited Messiah, the suffering servant who God...

You do know a Hebrew wrote this who is a monotheist, right? I know you did not address this question to me but you must realize the Jews have a monotheistic interpretation of Isaiah 9:6, right? Why Isaiah 7:14 Is Not A Prophecy of Jesus’ Virgin Birth Trinitarians deliberately confuse 2...

Anti-Biblical. Not once is "God the Son" stated in Scripture but over and over and over again God is the father alone. Return to Me and you will know that I live among My people Israel and that I, the Eternal One, am your God and there is no other. Joel 2:27

That's not true. There is a verse that is not NWT that says Jesus is the firstborn of all Creation. More than that, is the most famous verse in all of Scripture. John 3:16 explicitly states Jesus was begotten, which is synonymous with created (specifically pro-created).

Not sure about arbitrary but certainly mysticism, like square circles.

Your 'facts' are trinitarian dogma that is not an explicit teaching in Scripture but goes against explicit teaching in Scripture.

It is God's Spirit that was within Jesus. See the baptism.

Implied dualism. Jesus died. No part of him can possibly survive in order for the Good News to have any benefit to humanity! Only once he is 100% totally dead, like every other human being, does the proof of God's love for us have meaning in the evidence of raising our brother into a...

No. They really want a man to be God.

The Apostles taught Jesus was not God. Every Epistle identifies God the Father and our master (lord) Jesus. The man-is-god thesis emerged 4 centuries later. The trinity is not in the Bible - not the word, not the doctrine.

That's laughable. While trinitarianism professes a 3is1 God, the real passion - as this thread shows - is for the man-is-God thesis. You may not be one variant of this doctrine but you certainly espouse the doctrine whether you realize it or not. Labels don't matter much to me. Call it what you...

You know, you are hitting on one of the biggest misconceptions me and my family of origin had growing up. It is my understanding that most people won't go to heaven. We and the Earth will be remade, redeemed, into a glorified new creation. Is that not your understanding?

Sure. The WHERE is not in question. The HOW seems to be. I thought you were claiming Jesus is presently disembodied, not in his flesh but Spirit? NOTE: I try to take bit size pieces of posts while others write complicated dissertations. This bit size approach necessarily leans to more posts but...

This is another trinitarian tactic; synthesize doctrine by piecing together bits of Scripture. Any doctrine can be 'supported' that way. The word of God is of God, not the flesh who utters it. Simple.

See thread on Case Against Trinitarianism.

Classic Trinitarian Appeal to Diversion. This thread is not about Revelation but Jesus admitting his limited knowledge to another, which proves he is not the Supreme Being.