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  1. Wrangler

    I have a question that remains unanswered:

    You don't see any harm in a coercive ideology? In my view, it is always dangerous to go beyond the word of God. Frankly, there is no need to extrapolate. That trinitarianism relies on coercion is evidence of it not being divine. And so you cancel the word of God in order to hand down your...
  2. Wrangler

    Jesus Is God: Part 1

    We all know you have talked about time constraints. Until you have the time to reply, let who responds have their moment in the sun. Lighten up bud. You started a good thread. Now onto the point. Request denied. (Requests are not to be 'respected.' They are to be answered.) APAK answered 'no'...
  3. Wrangler

    Jesus Is God: Part 1

    Isaiah is speaking. Isaiah is speaking for God as all prophets do. Not sure how you come to this alternative. Jesus fulfills the promise God made in Deuteronomy 18:15-18 and Isaiah as the suffering servant. This is made explicitly clear in the NT in the Book of Acts. Do you deny Revelations...
  4. Wrangler

    I have a question that remains unanswered:

    Well, I think the "you" that you meant was me and not @BarneyFife. And no. I will not remove any of the unitarian text of Scripure, nor will I impose on the unitarian text trinitarian dogma, such as in Genesis, which like the rest of Scripture does not teach the trinity. The easiest way to...
  5. Wrangler

    The Only Problem With The Trinity

    Subverting Christ's authority again? Most Protestants I know take the word of God over councils of men.
  6. Wrangler

    I have a question that remains unanswered:

    It is especially because that is the dominant God tempting people to violate the 1C. In this case, you know the trinitarian doctrine is not genuine because it began in the 4th century and goes against Scripture. There is no verse that says The nature of God is a trinity - consisting of...
  7. Wrangler

    I have a question that remains unanswered:

    Not at all. It's just that if the above plural pronoun is important, the singular pronoun in the 1C is even more important. You shall have no gods before me. This includes especially the trinitarian god. Friend. The trinity is not in the Bible - not the word & not the doctrine.
  8. Wrangler

    Jesus Is God: Part 1

    God. Supreme Being. Synonyms. What is your problem? You obviously do not want to discuss the merit of your proposition. You just want its assertion to be summarily accepted. You could not even admit that Revelations 1:1 indicates the resurrected Jesus received a revelation from God, which is...
  9. Wrangler

    I have a question that remains unanswered:

    Trinitarianism is the bigggest idol in Christianity. It's so big, I added another g to big! :-)
  10. Wrangler

    I have a question that remains unanswered:

    Right. The name of God is LORD - not I am.
  11. Wrangler

    I have a question that remains unanswered:

    I don't think they equal. In the beginning of WHAT was the Word? In the beginning of Jesus' ministry. This is a different beginning from Creation.
  12. Wrangler

    Jesus Is God: Part 1

    Hmmm. I watched a video that pointed out Revelations with many thrones. Whoever is sitting on God's throne has the authority of God - even though they are not God. Cool, huh?
  13. Wrangler

    Jesus Is God: Part 1

    I understand your point but I was not giving the definition of Strawman, just identifying its use. If you re-read his post, he was telling me what my argument needs to be. That is, creating the Straw man as it eliminates stronger arguments one might be able to make. I've found that in practice...
  14. Wrangler

    I have a question that remains unanswered:

    Once again, you are asserting through mysticism trinitarianism is spiritually valid.
  15. Wrangler

    Jesus Is God: Part 1

    Not an answer to the question.
  16. Wrangler

    Jesus Is God: Part 1

    Appeal to intimidation. What verse says if you do not believe in the trinity, you cannot be saved and will go to hell?
  17. Wrangler

    Jesus Is God: Part 1

    This is NOT what Hebrews says. In modern parlance, it is my throne, which you will sit in forever. I swear, the deliberate misinterpreting Scripture to support an inherently contradictory doctrine knows no bounds.
  18. Wrangler

    Jesus Is God: Part 1

    Ha! We are on the same page there! BTW, I was not comparing Joe to God but language usage. Paris of Troy in the Iliad is not the same as Troy of Paris. No son is the father. God is synonymous with the Father. ‘For us, there is on God, the Father.’ What do you make of this verse? The Bible...
  19. Wrangler

    Jesus Is God: Part 1

    On the contrary, subordination does disqualify one as being the Supreme Being, by definition.
  20. Wrangler

    Jesus Is God: Part 1

    Appeal to Majority. In revelations, John bows down to an angel. Just because he thought that does not make the angel God, right?