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Notice this verse does not even mention Jesus? The idea that Jesus is called Father has no basis in Scripture. All the Gospels are explicit. Jesus is the Son of God. Sons are not their father’s.

Meaning he came into existence. The Bible says Jesus is the first born of all creation. John 3:16 tells us Jesus was made. Begotten means made, created. Look it up.

Bless your heart. Jesus cannot be a son and also always have existed. If you re-read the verses you cite, you will notice the text stops short of saying Jesus is the Creator. Not one single verse identifies Jesus as the LORD God incarnate. Scripture informs us God is Spirit. Jesus is flesh...

Nor do you cite the Scriptures in ‘supporting’ doctrine not found there. The trinity is not in the Bible - not the word and not the doctrine. Jesus manifested as a burning bush? What a hoot. Jesus said his Father is the one true God. According to your doctrine, Jesus doesn’t know what he was...

One almost always goes against what Jesus said. Take ‘speak the truth in love.’ I am way more proficient in speaking the truth in anger. LOL In theory people will say otherwise but actual practice is different from theory. Let’s take another example. Jesus said to love your enemies. I’m more...

No. You are connecting to WHEN’s for reasons I cannot fathom. The WHEN you cite here is ‘when ye see this, your heart shall rejoice’ NOT WHEN the nation is established in a day. Do you deny the day you are born and the day you rejoice do not have to be the same day?

False Alternative. My experience reinforces my belief in what Jesus said.

I JUST answered this scripturally! Follow the logic. P1. Sons are made. P2. Jesus is a son. C. Jesus was made.

You are just making this up from whole cloth. Asserting Jesus is God is not what this thread is about, right?

What you quote are prophecies but not died to the birth of the nation in one day prophecy. Sorry but I do not connect what you are connecting. I see your reference more to end times or closer to end times than the day birth of a nation.

Not sure how you come up with the ‘now’ qualifier or that Christ ruling them is a pre-requisite for the prophecy to be fulfilled?

God was also manifested by a burning bush, a wrestler and in the voice of the prophets. Your problem is arbitrarily equating one singular manifestation with being God incarnate. Of course, none of this supports the trinity as you are only actually defending the man-is-God thesis. 2 a trinity...

I hold that 1948 fulfills Biblical prophecy. The issue you seem to have makes no difference as far as I can see. The Bible is filled with God doing things through others. In another thread, a poster delved into who talked to Moses and who destroyed Sodom & Gomora. Regarding people acting on...

Is it your assumption that Genesis and John are referring to the same beginning?

excepting him since he MUST have been made for all things to be made through him + being a son, we know he is created as all sons are created. Don't forget the all important exception in Christianity's end game. 23 But this is how it will happen: the Anointed’s awakening is the firstfruits...

Not sure where this is coming from. I never said anything like it’s "my-way-or-the-highway". Just reminding you of questions you did not answer. You made it clear you do not CARE. And are the guy who said you did not mean anything by what you posted. Glad you are not a victim - even though...

Profound. To suppose otherwise is to suppose those who walked with Jesus did not know who he was or what he taught. Given this level of ignorance, why in the world would we elevate their writings to the status of inerrant Word of God?

Yes. It is called Reasoning by Analogy. Let me humbly ask this, why do you have to be the one to bring up how baptism relates to the topic at hand? Why can’t other people bring up analogous subjects?

One cannot know the truth before one CARES to know the truth. Bless your heart.

Like all men, Jesus is a created being.