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What mistake, it is right there in Gods word Gen 15: 6 And he believed in the Lord, and He accounted it to him for righteousness. (justified) This happened before abraham left his fathers house. Paul agreed. Rom 4: 4 What then shall we say that Abraham our father has found according to the...

THIS IS BEEN DISCUSSED BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS JUSTIFIED IN GEN 15, BEFORE HE EVEN LEFT HIS FATHERS HOUSE AND STARTED THE TRIP TO THE LAND WHERE GOD WAS TAKING HIM. AND YES. I CAN YELL TOO.. IT IS RUDE TO USE ALL CAPS MY FRIEND.

Very well said!. This is what I have experienced also, and this is also what I see.. The gospel is security. It is rest from our work. It is stop being weary and heavy laden and entering the rest of Christ.

Why did Noah walk with God Because he had faith Noah was SAVED by his faith. Because of his faith he was made a child of God Because of this, Noah walked with God and God walked with him To add works to Osas or grace is to nullify both.

What your telling me is the truth. Concerning most jews. They were continually unbelievers But even david understood. Saying sacrifice and burnt offering you did not desire. and blessed is the one for whom God does not input sin. rom 4: 5 But to him who does not work but believes on Him who...

if a non believers does every work possible. they will still fall short. For all have sinned and fall short.

Nope Your missing the point. Your trying to insert works to salvation..

remember. Jews were non believers.but when it came to the law they were the harders workers that there ever were.. And they did it all to get to heaven. its also why they rejected christ. Because Christ said nothing they did would help them. all their works were in vein

yep. And God saved this person who never had faith? Why do you think he had faith. let alone God saved that person and made them into a new creature? Why does he still act like a dog? (non believer) if he was transformed into a new creation?

Why would a person who has FAITH do nothing? BETTER YET. how can they? if doing something is required. We earn salvation. Not of works lest anyone should boast. why would you even think of boasting after what we saw the jews do?

this is works salvation. Your basing your eternity on what YOU DO. This is a losing proposition. Because if YOU could save yourself. Christ died in vein

Not sure where you get that hell was not a threat. Eternal death has always been a threat.

He who believes is not condemned (saved) He who does not believe is condemned already (needs saved) Its not about works or doing nothing. It is about the gift God to give us. Do we accept his gift in faith. or reject it in unbelief.

Why does a drowning man need a savior. Because in his state he is as good as dead, and without one he will die Why does a man in a burning building need a savior. because in his state he is as good as dead, and without one he will die Why does a man in a car accident with critical injuries need...

This is not true Gen 15 said Abraham believed God and he accredited to him as righteousness paul in Romans 4 says the same thing, abrahams believe was about the promise in Gen 15. Abraham committing adultry was what most men would do if they get permission from their wife to sleep with a...

We teach books, not 20 minute sermenettes (as I call them). We start a book from chapter 1 verse 1 and continue to the end. If a topic comes up it is taught.

I can teach the bible without giving people a list of works they need to do. I went through this legalistic teaching as a youth. And it did not work. for anyone.. Once I realized we just teach love God and others. Works flowed from me with out even thinking of it,.

You don’t get it I do Not have to teach works. I teach love and serve others teaching works is teaching we have to live up to some standard. That’s legalism

Jesus told me if we follow the law of love and Paul said if we seek after the things of the spirit we do not have to worry about being good. it will just happen. the jews focused on being good. So did my church growing up. Its why many people fall. when they realise how BAD they are. and the...

I can look at them and say they are good people But if they go boasting about how good they are. Something is wrong Legalists focus on works and being righteous and telling us we need to do this. Instead of telling people do Do what Jesus and others said, and focus on loving God and others...