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Dude stop right here I have said people who live in sin have never seen good, your not talking to me, your talking to people who turn the grace of God to licentiousness they are just as lost as the proud worker who thinks he can mock the cross by earning his salvation by his works both...

but if you can forsake, it’s not eternal it’s conditional your still trusting your ability to strive, not gods ability to change you If your working to earn salvation paul says you teach a different gospel. Ha also calls you a fool,for entering in the spirit and trying to perfect in the flesh...

Nope but according to the law. They though they could,,they are no different than you really, they just follow,a different law Abraham believed god and it was a credited to him righteousness

People depart the faith because they never had faith to begin with You will lose, because your trying to earn grace, you can’t earn a gift, osas is only true if you repent and trust god completely,,you have failed to do both osas is not a get out of jail so I can live Amy way I want card. You...

A child of god can’t live in sin what part of the words of joh are you having a problem with? licentious people are not saved, they never have been saved, that’s why they live like the devil, they have never seen or known God Again, your lack of faith in Christ amazes me

Jesus said eat the food which endures forever, which one can eat and not die, whoever eats will never hunger or thirst, never die, live forever, and assured they will be ressurected by Christ not delivered to him let’s start here, John 6, what part says we can die? Or will hunger? That we may...

anyone who walks into a church or a body of Christ partakes of the Holy Spirit. Your trusting your ability to keep,striving, not Christs ability to keep you why do you trust self and not Christ? What kind of hope is that?

How can you get out? Jesus said he would never let you go more importantly. Why would you want to get out? Do you lack faith that was the right way?

Ahh, the license crap pits funny, you believe you can do anything you want, you just confess your sin and do what else? And your ok John said christians can’t live like the devil once again, you prove you have no concept of salvation and the power which comes

You hope? did Jesus lie when he said those things? Why don’t you discuss the verses?

If you don’t interpret you risk getting it wrong you don’t want to interpret it that’s up to you but I ask, why do you not trust christ?

he told us to strive to enter the narrow gate, once you entered you in. Why would you continue to strive after your in? Amen, a pure perfect fact I have been in christian chatrooms for numerous years now, I have come to find that most who attack osas attack it because they hate calvinistic...

You fall away from the truth, not salvation eternal life is eternal. Not conditional. And paul said I have it right here and right now, that is the basis of my hope which is the root of my faith if you do not have faith you have eternal life, your hope is in something other than the promise of...

You have not exposed anything your sacraments are no more righteous and salvic than the sacraments of the law were, a work is a work is a work circumcision was a work, so is baptism, the fact the work is done by a human on you is beside the point, your doing it to be saved, you can boast...

That’s not security and it is definitely not eternal that’s hope in self, and your ability to strive, not in God you perfected forever you who are being sanctified, i a, confident of this very think that he who began a good work WILL complete it until the day of Christ. I wi h you had that...

You are born spiritually dead to be born again is to be made alive ,, and we who were dead, he has made alive, forgiving us all sin.

Yep and Jesus told him how, for god so loved the world he gave his only begotten som that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have life eternal. yep. No baptism.

You commit spiritual suicide every time you even stumble at one sin, apart from grace you would be dead where you stand. stop watering down the law so you can feel better about your self,

Heb 4 is talking about jews who returned to law. Because they law is where their faith always was, they never had true faith in Christ, however they did taste the gift and become partake ts as anyone who fellowships with gods people do, the author is trying to state a fact, according to the law...

One must be led to Christ and be saved to believe in eternal security, no one is saved apart from Christ. we lead people to Christ, not works of self righteousness... you do not understand us, that’s one thing for sure, you sure you most just attacking calvinism? Because you hat...