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Osas does Not Teach one must endure to the End in anyform before you start mocking a faith you should try to understand what they teach,

You did not defeat anyone to think you did proves your arrogance, you did not prove me wrong in anything. But if you think you did and that makes you feel good. Then keep believing it ps. I have no anti Catholic bias,some of my best friends are Catholic one thing they do not have is your...

1. anytime you use the word us or I, you are professing your works, not gods work 2. The English language is flawed. Even the KJV, if you want to be misled because you are stuck with some Bible and unwilling to go deeper. That’s on you

You have not shown anything, but your pride. severl of us have shown you how you NOSAS proves your true lack of faith in God, but like you say, if you do not want to see it no one can help you

Then its not us persevering, Its him keeping. I do not agree at all. I do not persevere. God keeps me. If I have to persevere. it is me saving myself. Are you a babe in Christ? A young man? A mature adult? and even if you are mature. Have you stopped growing in Christ? Unless you think you...

Please show me where he said this.

if they say you can be saved in total unbelief (as an Antichrist) then they are wrong. Are you sure they are saying this?

Are we saved by our power to continue. or Gods power to save us? If your cut off from salvation. were you ever saved to begin with? So if you are already "holy" by practice. why are you in the process of being Sanctified. Again, It means to be set apart. There is positional. and their is...

But OSAS does not teach that. So if they think that they have absolutely no idea what OSAS teaches. t then again the things of God are foolsih to those who are not his,. I think we should be preaching to them salvation. Not a doctrine they could not understand to begin with. Most of the people...

See your arrogant. You THINK you have done something you have by no means even come close to doing. You cant even prove your own point, Yet you think you have me on my heals.. As for what I think of most catholics. I can only go from what I have experienced from them. And you fit their mold...

Actually John teaches this fact They were never of us, If they were of us, then would never have departed. but they departed to expose the fact they were never truly of us. One thing I have noticed. When discussing these things. If you get down to it. It is not just a belief non belief issue...

Can you name some people? I have yet to meat anyone who thinks this. The only time I hear it is from non osas people.. I am just asking I know it is a risk of people who think once you say a prayer sin does not matter. But I have never heard it taught this way. I think the danger is there. But...

Amen. Three possible views of water. None of which is physical water baptism. All equally the more logical, than the word baptism. Also. None of the three would need to have Jesus say anything when he told Nicodemus HOW to be born again.. John 3: 13 No one has ascended to heaven but He who...

I still think most people hate OSAS because they attribute it to Calvin and the 5 point TULIP plan. Its the old Calvin Vs Arminian debate. If you believe in predestination, OSAS and the like you are calvinist. If you believe in free will, NOSAS and the like you are arminian. then of course we...

If NOSAS is wrong your leading people to Hell. Once again. That passage is not about eternal salvation

NOSAS rejects faith in God and places the onus of salvation on self and mankinds ability Eternal life and the seal of the spirit and all of Gods promises of eternal security are not dangerous. In fact John said it is our knowledge we have eternal life which empowers us to continue to believe...

Amen. Sadly people feel they have to be a part of it. Its human nature. It is against our nature to take a freebie and be told we can not earn something. Thats why we must be broken to enter the narrow Gate. or as Jesus said, Become poor in spirit (the word translated poor is literally to...

YAWN Your argument is Jesus spoke of baptism in John 3 You cant show where Jesus said baptism I PROVED where jesus said believe (in your instance Jesus should have said believe and be baptized. If baptism was in reference) I do not need to prove anything my friend, Your the one who has to...

This is not eternal salvation. This is speaking about the tribulation period. And how whoever endures to the end of this period will be saved (This is physical salvation not eternal salvation) once again, you take a passage out of Context. And once again you make God contradict himself. And...

He did not say they could lose salvation. Thats your interpretation. If we can lose salvation. God is a liar!. Yet the author of hebrews said I have been perfected forever (justified) The term justified. literally means declared righteous. Of course I am still being sanctified. NO ONE is...