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  1. Eternally Grateful

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    Nope I don’t agree John us saying we can not live a life of willfull sin your trying to twist the meaning to excuse your own sin John said we can’t live in willfull sin. Agree with him or agree with the men you sadly entrust your eternity to
  2. Eternally Grateful

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    Not so the sin John spoke of us will fill habitual sin John did Not contradict himself. He said it we say we have no sin we deceive ourself yes they sinned we all do but they did Not live in sin when will you bow down to the power of God to Change people? the bread of life gives life. That...
  3. Eternally Grateful

    1 Peter 2:24 = Hebrews 13:8

    Yet human life can’t redeem mankind Jesus said the father loved him and they shared that love from before the foundation of the world. Jesus did not just become in his birth from Mary, he entered the physical body bore by Mary,
  4. Eternally Grateful

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    No pharisee ever said this they thought they were righteous by their works, just like the jews who followed them, people who paul called fools for thinking they were initially saved in the spirit but must perfect that salvation in the flesh they resemble NOSAS people, not eternally secure people.
  5. Eternally Grateful

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    Lol, Actually you about hit it. add in some gold, silver and possible precious stones, vs a lot of ash after the fire..and we have it. both are saved an unbeliever can do no works, their works are as filthy rags and will have no reward.
  6. Eternally Grateful

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    Your right it does not so when John says whoever sins has never seen god, we should take him at his word, amd not mistranslated hebrews as saying we can live in sin and ever have known God
  7. Eternally Grateful

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    John said one who sins has never known God I must chose to follow in context with what John said, and know these sinners have never known God Otherwise I have the author of hebrews and John contradicting each other
  8. Eternally Grateful

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    Yes, that was rude. if you asked me a question, I would not do that to you, it as much as suggests I am trying to be decisive by asking a question to make you look bad, I just asked a question which could be easily confirmed in the passage I gave. you have yet to explain how a person...
  9. Eternally Grateful

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    A child of god can’t live a life of willfull sin, whoever sins has never seen or known god, whoever is born of god can’t sin. Heb is talking about rejecting the gospel willfully after hearing it Not living a life of sin.
  10. Eternally Grateful

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    Me be nice? Your the one who refused to answer my question. That’s rude, 1. Salvation is a gift, not a reward 2. Paul spoke of our wrks being judged, works are works., the one example had nothing to show, it like he was leaving a burning house and he had nothing to show for it, yet he was...
  11. Eternally Grateful

    Once Saved Always Saved

    1.it’s says they recieved the knowledge of truth, not that they accepted and were born again. 2.willful sin, so you sin by accident?
  12. Eternally Grateful

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    That’s what I thought. it’s not a premis it’s fact in 1 cor one man had little if any work, his reward was burnt, he had nothing left but ash, yet he was saved even as through fire. the one who had 1000 works had some gold silver or precious stone to show for it they were both saved good day.
  13. Eternally Grateful

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    Yes, John the Baptist spoke or religious pharisee, he demanded they have proof they were redeemed before he would baptise them. to use the suggest salvation can be lost is out of context
  14. Eternally Grateful

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    Take away in John 15 literally means to lifts up, it’s a term used of lifting branches off the ground so they can bear fruit. Luke 13 Jesus said let him try to fertilize it, if it still does not bear fruit cut it down. The gospel,is what fertilizes, if the gospel does not bear fruit, it is no...
  15. Eternally Grateful

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    He saw the DEAD. And they were delivered up to Christ. we are ressurected by Jesus. why are you refusing to answer my question? once again, what is the difference between a man who has 5 works and a man who has 1000 works at the bema judgment (1 cor 3) if you can’t answer just say so and I...
  16. Eternally Grateful

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    Also used of a battle rags of all the clotted blood soaked rags. this is what God thinks of our righteousness.
  17. Eternally Grateful

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    The problem with this thinking is that we have the same English word with 2 different Greek words that have different meaning. That’s why I explicitly spoke of the bema judgement. Where we receive rewards. Not the great white throne judgment (Krinos) judgement in which those judged are found...
  18. Eternally Grateful

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    Again, we are talking about bema judgment not the great white throne again, one has 5 works the other has 1000.
  19. Eternally Grateful

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    They both are based on works my friend, Paul said in 1 cor, each ones work will become clear and the first parable is about paying people who work reward are always based on works.
  20. Eternally Grateful

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    Did they both receive reward?