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    Been and Being.

    You have defined yourself, Charlie24, by attacking a Thread that Gives all Credit to God and the Blood of Jesus, for saving us and keeping us saved. Did you expect a hug and a warm welcome for doing that? So, no real born again person, would attack the blood of Jesus. Thats the reality. I even...
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    Been and Being.

    First, you dodged my question. Here it is again....>"How does the blood of Jesus that saves us, keep us saved forever.". Next, why would you want to attack a Thread that is giving honor to the Blood of Jesus, with Old Testament verses that talk about animal blood??? So, again., you are...
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    Been and Being.

    You're on my Thread.. Here is the main thing you missed. My Thread, is doing one thing....Its giving all Credit to God and Christ for saving us, and keeping us saved. And here you are on My Thread, disputing it with your opposition. So, do you see yourself yet, Charlie24? I promise you that...
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    Been and Being.

    What am i talking about? Are you not paying attention again? Listen, Im talking about a person, you...who is comparing the blood of animals, in the same LITERAL LIGHT, as the Eternal Blood of Jesus as if they are the same. And you are doing this on a publc forum. Wake up, charlie24. The Old...
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    Been and Being.

    You "would say"? Uh huh. Im sure you will. Here is the thing... the blood of animals are a shadow, or a, representation....they are a representation of the real, but they are not the real. Understand? So, your Cross rejecting theology is claiming that the blood of bulls and goats, is equal to...
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    Been and Being.

    If the blood of dead animals that the Hebrews spead on their doorposts, is the Blood of Jesus, then im sure you know what you are talking about. If it isnt the same, then maybe you need to rethink your theology, and line it up with the New Covenant, Charlie. Start there.
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    Been and Being.

    Saint, Salvation is something God provides. Its not something that you provide God. Salvation is the BLOOD OF JESUS. Salvation is JESUS, Himself Jesus is Salvation. Jesus is Eternal life. Do you have Jesus in you? Then you have God's Salvation. So, when you read in the NT that "Salvation is a...
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    The Chastening that comes from God

    It's not referring to the unsaved, who would be the "jews". Look at 12:5, that speaks to "son", and that is not a Christ Rejector, so, it can't be the "HEBREWS"......or Jews See, thats the thing about this Epistle, its not written specifically to the Believers, yet, it has a lot of doctrine in...
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    Once Saved Always Saved

    You are saying that trying to be good, is "walking in the Spirit"? That your self effort to not sin again, is "walking in the Spirit"? Perhaps you believe that using a "prayer language" is "walking in the Spirit"? Well, i can assure you that "presenting your body a living sacrifice", and...
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    Once Saved Always Saved

    You have an interesting opinion. Theologically, its not related to NT Christianity, but, i dont think you are concerned with this reality. I think when you started posting to me, you were trying to show us why you have issues with God keeping a person saved, forever, using the Blood of Jesus...
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    Once Saved Always Saved

    God does not refute the New Covenant, with the Old Testament. You should give that up. Its a bad idea to try to refute the NT by twisting OT verses. Bad idea, GracePeace.
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    Once Saved Always Saved

    Its true that everything created by God, is God's creation, but not every person is a born again Child of God. So, born again, is all that is relevant when discussing SALVATION, as the Blood Atonement. So, when you misuse an old testament verse, to try to deny New Testament Atonement that came...
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    Once Saved Always Saved

    You can't stop being born, ferris bueller You just post random verses, disconnected. And when you do find a verse that is related to Salvation, you misapply it. You posted Luke 7:50. "faith has saved you"..... But not exactly.. And why? Because if you read the preceeding verses, you...
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    Once Saved Always Saved

    You posted verses that have nothing to do with born again Christians, except for 2nd Timothy, and that verse has nothing to do with losing salvation.
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    Once Saved Always Saved

    Show me a verse that says.. 1) Jesus can leave you, after you become "one with God". 2.) that you can be unborn again. Give that a shot, fb. And as you are on your way to finding out that you have been so mislead by your teacher(s), ....... notice the NT verses that state that you "will...
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    The Chastening that comes from God

    Well, the verse is talking to the believers, according to 12:1 It says. "let us run our race".... so, that isn't the Jewish Nation, as they are not in the race, they are set aside during the time of the Gentiles.
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    Once Saved Always Saved

    Some commentary liar, has taught both justbyfaith and ferris bueller that "faith" saved them. So, they have this idea that Faith is their savior, and if they lost their faith, they lost their savior. Well, fellas, ONLY JESUS SAVES. A.) Final Answer. The good news is that God accepts our faith...
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    Once Saved Always Saved

    Who told you that? See, the way you phrase it, sounds like one of the "pre-destined" elect, heretics, who teach that God causes some to be saved and causes others to be damned. Or, as you state it, the very faith of a person, is caused by God or not. So, that's impossible. God does not cause...
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    The Chastening that comes from God

    This is an interesting verse you posted, as its not telling you to strive against sin till you bleed from your eyes. Its actually defining the difference between the greatness of the Lord Jesus, as compared to everyone else. Also, striving against sin, is what Jesus did, being UNDER THE...
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    Put God 1st, and Friends 2nd

    Being a real disciple, will find you in the world but not of it. You're not going to fit in, and you will be made to feel that you are the problem. And the reason that happens, is because The world is Dark, Spiritual darkness, and wants it that way, and we the born again are LIGHT. Light...