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  1. Wrangler

    The Absolute Equality of Jesus With The Father

    I have no idea how you suppose 1 Cor. 15:28 supports the notion Jesus is God when it says the precise opposite! It does not parse "Jesus" with "the Father" but Jesus with God - in his unitarian nature. So, we agree that there is no absolute equality between Jesus and God (who alone is the Father...
  2. Wrangler

    The Absolute Equality of Jesus With The Father

    No assumptions made about your beliefs. However, I thought we were theological allies here? I reject such a take on the Bible based in part what you write below. “I can do nothing on my own initiative or authority. Just as I hear, I judge; and My judgment is just (fair, righteous, unbiased)...
  3. Wrangler

    What is the best translation of the Bible to read?

    To give yourself credit, it is the gnostic elements and nonliteral criticism in your post that demands a response. Perhaps a separate thread is in order so you can explain to us what the Bible REALLY means and reveal all the cryptic secrets.
  4. Wrangler

    Thoughting again!....oh no, is that allowed?

    Bold to equate JW (Christians) with antiChrists. Not sharing doctrine ≠ Deceivers. My SIL recently escaped what he called the 'cult of Jaydub.' Most of his whole family is still in the cult, except for a cousin and his grandmother. To have a relationship with him and the grandkids, his...
  5. Wrangler

    If God Offered To Answer Any Question You Asked, What Would You Ask Him?

    Why did he save me - And not others? My family of origin does not seem to be on the path. :(
  6. Wrangler

    If God Offered To Answer Any Question You Asked, What Would You Ask Him?

    This thread goes into it a bit, not why he created but their study reveals his existence.
  7. Wrangler

    Can you overcome depression using the Bible?

    Jesus died for the likes of you. Too much pride will destroy you. Proverbs 16:18 (CEV)
  8. Wrangler

    Can you overcome depression using the Bible?

    It saddens me how this thread has gone. Getting back to the OP, Can you overcome depression using the Bible?; I am always mindful that "can" is about potential. Some people play the ALL v SOME game in derailing the question at the get go. I, for one, am not interested in those conditions where...
  9. Wrangler

    Thoughting again!....oh no, is that allowed?

    It is what I am trying to convey. (I'm not sure I'm buying into the idea that God is manifesting Himself as an angel.)
  10. Wrangler

    Thoughting again!....oh no, is that allowed?

    You do make it hard to agree with you. Based on my quote above ... ... I have no idea how what you wrote relates to my post above. It's like you are being pendantic about theophany. How about if you respond to my point, how Judges 2 is an example of Angels and prophets speak the words of...
  11. Wrangler

    Thoughting again!....oh no, is that allowed?

    Exactly. Angels and prophets speak the words of God, even using the 1st person, but are not God. It gets confusing sometimes. Regarding the burning bush, I was wondering about the pillar of cloud during the day and fire at night the led the Hebrews out of Israel. Was that also a theophany but...
  12. Wrangler

    The Case Against the Trinity

    Being a Christian is not what 4th century mystics demanded in using the power of the Roman Empire to take or burn property and murder non-mystic Christians. Sad to equate being a Jesus follower with embracing trinitarianism, which is not in the Bible. Circular Reasoning. I do not believe...
  13. Wrangler

    The Case Against the Trinity

    No. See Post #704. The Bible says this over and over and over again.
  14. Wrangler

    The Case Against the Trinity

    I doubt it is the voice of the Holy Spirit that has taught trinitarians to ignore God the Father (violate the 1C & 2C) and his Son (words above). Good because this thread is not a debate thread. This thread's purpose is to strengthen the case against trinitarianism. I found trinitarians do...
  15. Wrangler

    The Case Against the Trinity

    I'll take what follows as you will just ignore the very words of Jesus to support your coequal doctrine. I can do nothing on my own. I judge as God tells me. Therefore, my judgment is just, because I carry out the will of the one who sent me, not my own will. John 5:30 I am going to the...
  16. Wrangler

    Thoughting again!....oh no, is that allowed?

    I am not affiliated with the church by that name. But my question remains unanswered.
  17. Wrangler

    Thoughting again!....oh no, is that allowed?

    No. I am a unitarian Christian.
  18. Wrangler

    Thoughting again!....oh no, is that allowed?

    Putting Michael aside, I was reading Judges 2, which says an angel led the people out of Egypt. Is this angel also God?
  19. Wrangler

    Management and Organization

    If you are not starting being productive as soon as the sun rises, I think I understand why you feel there is not enough hours in the day.
  20. Wrangler

    The Case Against the Trinity

    @Heart2Soul, are you going to just ignore the very words of Jesus to support your doctrine?