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Yes, it does imply that it's talking about physical harm, but it's not a literal sword which you have acknowledged. Why do you act as if it is? It doesn't indicate that fire does not come down at that time, either. It's all symbolic. To think that the literal destruction has to resemble what it...

That point was not made in post #922. The point made there is that some Amils (very few) believe that it's not talking about physical martyrdom in Revelation 20:4, which I and most Amils disagree with. Please learn how to read.

Hey, your doctrine is the one that says keeping the Sabbath or not has something to do with the mark of the beast, not mine. That makes it a salvation issue because obviously if someone has the mark of the beast then they are not saved. LOL. You don't speak straightforwardly, so I can only guess...

Good gravy, man, what makes you think that commandment was given to Gentiles? Do you know how ridiculous it is for you to think you're still under the old covenant instead of the new covenant?

The Hebrew word translated as "the nations" in that translation of the verse can also refer to people in general or to the people of a particular nation or tribe. Here is the KJV translation of that verse: Zechariah 11:10 And I took my staff, even Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break...

Are you unable to follow a discussion? I was talking about post #922 specifically and I'm saying that most Amils do not deny that it's talking about believers who have been physically martyred. That's the only point I was making there, so there's no need to bring up anything else.

There isn't confusion about that at all. I'm asking you how well do we need to keep the commandments in order to be satisfactory? 100% of the time? 75% of the time. I'm trying to find out what exactly your understanding is of keeping the commandments. You don't seem to want to clarify that...

Jesus came to give us rest from our trials and tribulations by resting in Him, understand? You are ignoring that scripture because you know it contradicts your beliefs, understand? No, you don't need to repeat your false understanding of scripture, understand? I completely disagree. He came to...

How many Amils even believe this? Likely only a few. No one here does that I know of. Is it really worth your time to refute what only a few people even believe? I don't believe so. Are you trying to make all Amils look bad just because a few Amils believe things like this? That would be like...

You won't even tell me exactly what you think it means to keep His commandments, so how can I answer your question? Does it mean to keep His commandments perfectly without ever sinning? If so, I can't say that I'm doing that. But, I do love God with all my heart, soul and mind and love my...

Where does that say He is sitting on a throne on earth? I don't see that anywhere. Looks like you're making that up. Matthew 25:31 31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. Nope, no mention of earth here. Revelation 20:11...

So, that doesn't apply to me then, right? Since I don't have any conviction that I should be keeping the Sabbath the way you understand it. So, would you say that I don't have the mark of the beast then even though I don't observe the Sabbath the way you think I should? What does this mean?

Obviously, but where is the description of all the chaos and destruction that would occur on the earth as a result of this event if it happens before the last day of earth as we know it?

Is this your way of saying that you believe the falling away that Paul referenced in 2 Thess 2:3 already started decades ago?

LOL! No, it doesn't work both ways, you silly goose. The dragon with seven heads and ten horns is symbolic of Satan, right? Can we also say that Satan is symbolic of the dragon with seven heads and ten horns? No. That would be ridiculous since Satan is not a symbol but an actual living being...

He will send fire down on earth after He descends from heaven. That's what is indicated in 2 Peter 3:10-12. Both. It's not a literal sword, as you have already acknowledged. You said yourself it is a symbolic sword, did you not? So, Revelation 19 does not specifically talk about the LITERAL way...

And what does any of that have to do with keeping the sabbath on Saturday or not? Nothing. You think I have the mark of the beast just because I don't believe the sabbath commandment applies to New Testament believers? I believe in Christ as my Lord and Savior and surrender my life to Him, but...

Of course. We all believe that. Okay... It's an actual 24 hour day in the future at which point when that day arrives then some time during that day it will happen. You're acting like "the day of Christ" is a period of time when scripture teaches no such thing. Instead, it teaches that it's the...

If I say that Satan looks like a dragon with seven heads and ten horns does that mean I'm in line with what the text says? What a ridiculous line of reasoning.

At least you see the point. It takes so much effort sometimes on here just to get someone to see my point. I'm sure you run into that problem sometimes as well as we probably all do. I can't make any sense of what you're saying because I believe scripture teaches that on the day Christ returns...