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That's the problem What you think is false is true I know I can not convince you of this, But whether you believe it or not. Does not make it false

The devil is not given an opportunity to make it nore does he desire to Loopholes? lol, I my friend is not looking for loopholes I am also not trying to save myself by thinking I am something I am not.

No, I said it is proven truth Saying a doctrine is truth''and saying I can know a persons salvation status are two different things.

Yes, He says those who used their works as the reason why They think God should let them in. He says he NEVER knew them Meaning these workers were never born again, spirit filled people of God

Were does scripture say Gods born again spirit filled, adopted, made alive, Blessed with every spiritual blessing under heaven will do these things ? i can't find it

No, This is where you are wrong. Salvation is being saved from Hell. Saved from eternal Death, Saved from spiritual death, It is one who was dead in christ being made alive to God It is FROM OUT OF THIS FACT, that we desire to walk in Gods ways, and it empowers us to walk in Gods way. If one...

Amen, Thats why Eternal security, eternal life, OSAS, whatever you want to call it, is a proven Doctrine True, But this does not determine who gets to heaven and who Does not. God knows who has true faith and who does not does he not? I agree, amen, this is how we are sanctified, By loving...

we need grace because we have failed it is troubling you think that you can earn it

yes I have met people who claim they are saved, But I do not think they are but That was not my question, I asked about people who claim they are saved, But have no desire to walk in Gods ways Can you answer this question please.

so again, If you do not make yourself holy but God does it Than how can you ever be unholy. and fall out of the adoption which you claim you have received? Would this not mean God failed?

so we have to work hard, and have many good works, so that we can overcome and earn savation Thank you I think you just made my point for me As for who is the one who overcomes? John gives us this answer 1 John 5:4 For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that...

I am not God, its not up to me However, If you say you did them because you were working toward receiving eternal life. THEN I can judge your motive

If I was pushed to give an answer, this would be mine also.. Based on what I said above

ok I see I researched this Matt has robbers one on each side, Which fulfilled a prophecy he was numbered among the transgressors.. Robber in greek - Theif, robber, Band of thieves pirates, rebels transgressors - Evil doer, one without law, Wicked Mark has robbers, Same greek word as matt...

Look up the word redeem The word redeem, a term used of someone who has had their freedom purchased or paid for. so they could be set free

amen, and if paul never made it, Who are we to think we have ever made it

Question You say here the elect will always stand So if this is true How can the elect ever lose salvation?

Legalism is a term given to those who, by following a set of rules or guidelines and declaring that these things must be followed if one is to be saved. I did not make up this term.. A good example would be the pharisees of Jesus day who followed the legalistic tradition of the law to earn...

Amen, He who began a good work will complete it It is God who strengthens us and not only this but points us in the direction. And he also chastens us when we go astray, and leads us back to the correct path. As scripture says, His sheep know his voice and they follow..

Praise God yes, You should Here is where you start to go off the path. You think you must, It is not because you want to. It because you think you must, If you do not. Then you will lose something, What can be lost. If you believe God made you pure and holy based on Gods atoning sacrifice. why...