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I tried for years to help him when most members here ignored him. He was mentally ill, and seeking attention from others. Hardly a day goes by that I don’t think of him. While some here think I’m the devil incarnate, he thought I was what I am - a retired primitive Christian pastor.

Now that you no longer consider yourself a Christian @Riven, how do you answer those questions? Did your brief venture modify your pre-Christian view? Is there anything left of your Christian faith?

October 30-31 was a misunderstanding. That’s been sorted now. No more time left. November 6-7. * Update pending. Write it down. *

* If an online discussion forum had its picture taken. *

* Preparing to prepare to win is off the chart. *

* Hmm. I’m a sucker for a free book. And I could do with some new vigor. *

Why don’t we stop? Is it because we don’t know when to? Is it something else?

”The question to some degree is: How do you help someone that is lost? And the answer to that is: If they aren’t wiling to not be lost, you cannot help them. … There’s a statement in the New Testament … And that is: Don’t cast pearls before swine. And what that means is: If you’re trying to help...

”If you have things to say, say them. But you find people that will listen. Talk to them. The ones who aren’t listening, pull back. Because you’re devaluing what you have to say by offering it to an audience that does nothing but reject it.” Would Jesus and the apostles agree with that analysis...