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  1. Matthias

    Jesus submitted to his God

    Everyone needs to test your spirit. You’ve made claims about yourself which demand it.
  2. Matthias

    Jesus submitted to his God

    It’s the responsibility of every follower of Jesus to test the spirits. Almost verbatim the words of prophet Joshua and the prophetess Hlengwe to those who tested their spirit and found it to be false. You’re interpreting my action and getting it wrong.
  3. Matthias

    Jesus submitted to his God

    It was your own testimony that I don’t go beyond what is written and that about yourself, “But yes, I do go beyond” (post #113). Beyond what? Beyond what I don’t go beyond. And what is that? What is written. As far as I’m concerned, your visions are no different than those of the rapture cult...
  4. Matthias

    Jesus submitted to his God

    There are many excellent books written on the subject of biblical hermeneutics for you to argue with.
  5. Matthias

    Jesus submitted to his God

    There is a lot of that going on in the world right now. It’s all false.
  6. Matthias

    Jesus submitted to his God

    It is for me to say. It is for all of the Messiah’s disciples to say. I don’t deny John’s witness. I deny yours.
  7. Matthias

    Jesus submitted to his God

    Again, I thank you for saying plainly - for reiterating - to me (and to all of your readers) that you do go beyond what is written. That is your own testimony about yourself. To borrow your words, so shall it be written. *** A word now to my other readers - Do not go beyond what is written...
  8. Matthias

    Jesus submitted to his God

    Figures of speech are real. God uses them to communicate intelligently with mankind.
  9. Matthias

    Jesus submitted to his God

    Thank you for that. All that was sealed and subsequently revealed in Revelation is sufficient. I’ve heard your personal story. I acknowledge, for the record, that you are right in saying that I have rejected it. Scripture contains everything that is needful for a follower of Jesus to know at...
  10. Matthias

    Jesus submitted to his God

    It only revealed your hypocrisy. Nothing more.
  11. Matthias

    Jesus submitted to his God

    You think like what you speak and write. We’ve been through this before. Several times before, in fact. I haven’t forgotten your line.
  12. Matthias

    Jesus submitted to his God

    All scripture is not analogy. Scripture uses analogy, and many other figures of speech.
  13. Matthias

    Jesus submitted to his God

    Let me put that same question to you: Are you God that you should say what I am and what I am not? I don’t go beyond what is written in scripture; you do. (That’s important for Muslims and Jews to know about us.) And see above.
  14. Matthias

    Jesus submitted to his God

    You are also a person and you think like a person. The Messiah’s creed is of God, his God, not of persons.
  15. Matthias

    Jesus submitted to his God

    Body language is an analogy. The Messiah’s creed is scripture. It isn’t an analogy of his God it is the affirmation, his own confession of faith, that his God is one Lord.
  16. Matthias

    Jesus submitted to his God

    Paul is an apostle. You aren’t, and you’ve gone beyond him; I haven’t. I hope we’re not going to get into your personal experience story again. We’ve been through it a couple of times already and it isn’t going to persuade me. We both know that. Right?
  17. Matthias

    Jesus submitted to his God

    It was your body language analogy. One person, one right hand. That’s the Messiah’s own creed. The Messiah is only one person. So is his God. The creed isn’t about him. It is about his God.
  18. Matthias

    Jesus submitted to his God

    Being a non-trinitarian yourself, you’ve quite naturally taken a non-trinitarian approach to explaining the matter of Jesus submitting himself to his God to non-trinitarian Muslims and Jews. The body language approach is excellent but only if it is done as Paul does it. Paul isn’t teaching his...
  19. Matthias

    Jesus submitted to his God

    God is only one person. That is your analogy. It works exceedingly well with Jewish monotheism. Yet it won’t be effective with Jewish monotheists (nor with Muslims) unless and until you correctly identify who that one person is. Side note: Your analogy won’t be effective with trinitarians...
  20. Matthias

    Jesus submitted to his God

    “The second rule is to read the book. It is not asked that it be studied in the ordinary sense, or memorized, or even sought be understood at first, but simply read. The purpose is to make the task as easy, as natural, and as pleasant as possible. It matters not, for the time being, how rapidly...