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  1. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    John is using the Hebrew Bible.
  2. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    That’s right. Jesus is a Jewish monotheist, not a trinitarian. It’s the same monotheism that the apostles have.
  3. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    John isn’t a Calvinist. He’s a Jew. The translators understood that. Logos = davar.
  4. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    Who is Jesus’ God?
  5. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    I’ve just well-read on the subject. You acknowledged that you aren’t. I’m sharing some of the information I’ve acquired from trinitarian sources with you and others.
  6. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    Surely. The monotheism of Jesus and the apostles is precisely the same. He’s a non-trinitarian staff member. I’ve been in conversation with him in this thread and in the thread which I provided the link for.
  7. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    That’s a good example of the constraints of history. You don’t know what they recognized.
  8. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    Yes. Christian monotheism in the 1st century was the monotheism of Jesus. @JLB is a sincere Christian. Do you identify with him?
  9. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    John knew perfectly well what “word” meant. He was drawing on his background in the Hebrew Bible. The trinitarian translators recognized that.
  10. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    Yes. These are Jewish monotheists who believe - against unbelieving Jewish monotheists - that Jesus of Nazareth is the Messiah, Son of the living God. I identify with believing Israel.
  11. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    Does the Nicene Creed lead people astray?
  12. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    Given that you’ve said that you aren’t a trinitarian - Post in thread 'Jesus submitted to his God' Jesus submitted to his God - what does that say about the Nicene Creed?
  13. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    Yes. Why did they do that?
  14. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    That’s right. Unbelieving Israel vs. believing Israel. It was in the days of Jesus and the apostles. The church moved away from it. That is what the A.E. Harvey quote that I shared with you is about. The church gradually moved away from the monotheism of Israel. (Dr. Brown’s book Heresies is...
  15. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    That’s right. It’s not poor English. It’s recognition that John is speaking in his prologue about God speaking the creation into existence. The same God who did that is at work in the new creation.
  16. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    Not all Israel.
  17. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    Everywhere else Moses gave us the singular personal pronouns that represent God, elohim. What do you do with those?
  18. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    God (singular) is speaking to his heavenly court. I don’t reject Moses. The translators don’t reject Moses. God is singular.
  19. Matthias

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    Do you reject the Apostles’ Creed? I still don’t understand why you say God is plural and write it as singular. I’d like to hear your explanation.