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Then Jesus didn’t literally preexist. In Jewish monotheism the Father’s word - not a literally preexisting Son - became flesh. I’ve never met a trinitarian who didn’t believe that Jesus is literally God.

Jesus was begotten by God / conceived by a woman. To be begotten / conceived is to be brought into existence. The woman gave birth to a human person. A one person God isn’t a three person God. I strongly insist on that. The way that I look at things - the way which you say is odd - is...

I brought it up for Christological reasons. No. Jesus was conceived. If I were a betting man I would wager that you know plenty of people who believe Jesus is literally God.

”Now the generation of Christ was in this wise. When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child, of the Holy Ghost.” (Matthew 1:18, DRA) I selected this particular translation for two reasons: (1) The body of the child in the womb wasn’t...

* I did not have “To get to Ed’s Roadside Lounge” on my short list. *

“No one wants to listen.” - your post #74.

“All the books of the Bible cry to sinners, ‘Come to Jesus.’” - C.H. Spurgeon

* Better listen to the man. Clorox disinfecting wipes are small but hostile. *

“When people try to appeal to ‘the Fathers’ to win their argument, I ask: ‘Which Fathers? Second century? Third century? Fourth? Fifth? What they all hold in common? With the same allowable diversity?‘ In the end, some - but not much - is resolved by appealing to ‘the Fathers.’ (Dr. Michael J...

“If you're not a trinitarian, I really don’t want to hear about your doctrinal positions on anything else.” (Dr. Michael J. Svigel) https://x.com/svigel/status/1916646740117037161?s=61 I respect his stance and would tell him so if we were ever to meet in person. Then I would shake his hand...

Restoration Church of God. Sometimes also known as Church of God Abrahamic Faith.