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Why do discussion forums exist? Why aren’t you reading your Bible instead of listening to what people say about God? Why do you want anyone to listen to what you have to say about God? Why are you vexed when someone listens to what you say about God and are able to agree with you, at least in part?

How do you know? Have you read something good in his writings? Have you listened to him speak something that is good? Or are you just parroting what someone else has told you? If he said something good then quote him. I’ve invited you to do so.

I’ll agree with you (and anyone’ else) when you say something that is true and disagree with you (and anyone else) when they say something that is false. What I won’t do is take someone else’s word for what has been said. I’ll read it for myself and then rightly divide. I recommend the same to...

I asked you to point out the “poison” pill in the “hamburger” quote and you weren’t able to do it. Why? There was no “poison” pill in the “hamburger” quote that I posted. Augustine said something which we agree is true. Hold on to it.

He’s inconsistent with his logic, and I disagree with some of his stated beliefs, but I’ve still been able to find some points of agreement with him. I don’t know why that vexes him. It shouldn’t.

I don’t agree with everything Augustine wrote but I‘m able to find things he wrote that I’m able to agree with. He challenges my thinking. If he were here, I’d thank him for that.

I’m not here to discuss the Trinity and it’s against board policy to do so. I wanted to find out whether or not you’re a trinitarian. I did. Trinitarian or non-trinitarian, we should all still be able to cind things we can agree on.

You aren’t a trinitarian. I would still quote you and let others read what you write and decide for themselves if there is any truth in what you have written. ”You must accept the truth from whatever source that it comes.” - Maimonides

When truth is mixed with lies, agree with the truth and reject the lies. No matter who the speaker is @Big Boy Johnson.

Agreed. Also agreed. That’s not what I suppose. You don’t want to say if you’re a trinitarian or not. Why?

So say also the trinitarians, of which Augustine (you’ve been told) was one. I’ve never met a trinitarian who was reluctant when asked to acknowledge they were. Have I now?

You’ve been able to agree with me that God needs man, as well as agreeing with me on the issue of OSAS. You still haven’t told me if you’re a trinitarian or not. Why is that?

So then you’ve only heard about him. Your limited knowledge of him may explain, in part, why you aren’t able to agree with him in part. I spend most of my extra-biblical reading time reading trinitarian authors, of which Augustine was one.

I’m asking in order to discover whether you have read him or not. Maybe you have, but it doesn’t sound like you have. I believe it’s possible to agree with people in part. In order to do that, I have to know what they believe. Getting it straight from the horses’ mouth is the most reliable way...

If you haven’t read him then you’ve let someone else tell you what to believe about him.

But only if I cease reading, thinking and just let Big Boy Johnson decide for me. *wink, wink. nudge, nudge.* If you haven’t read Augustine, who told you Augustine is a false teacher? If you have read Augustine, why?

Don’t be a nattering nabob of negativity. The world is filled with them. Be a light.

I’ve been thinking about your experience. It’s outside of my comfort zone, but nevertheless fascinating. I see no harm in it and might just have to give it a go. Thanks for sharing it with me and your other readers.

I’ve also quoted you. I love irony.