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Does God need man? A trinitarian perspective: ”God doesn’t just desire us; God actually needs us.” https://godinallthings.com/2021/01/04/god-needs-us/ While I don’t myself hold to trinitarian theology, I find myself able to agree with the logic presented by the trinitarian author.

“The greatest kindness one can render to any man is leading him to truth.” - Augustine

No God, no plan. No man, no plan. God exists, man exists, plan exists. ”Your eyes are too pure to look on evil; you cannot tolerate wrongdoing. Why then do you tolerate the treacherous? Why are you silent while the wicked swallow up those more righteous than themselves?” (Habakkuk 1:13, NIV)...

You graciously explained why you believe his assertion isn’t true. You’ve also confirmed that you haven’t since then changed your mind. I (still) believe Heschel’s assertion is true. You (still) believe Heschel’s assertion is false. “We’re on the same page” is an illogical conclusion.

A presumptuous statement to begin with. That aside, if we are on the same page - as you have emphatically asserted more than once since writing this - then there is no need for you to get me out of the box.

“God only needs us if He’s in our box.” I am filled with God’s spirit. God is inside of me. God is in my box. God needs me.

You aren’t in the “same box” with me. I’ve questioned and rejected your logic. Does God need man? Me - qualified yes. You - adamant no. You’re free to assert that this difference means we’re on the same page. See above.

My answer is a qualified yes. If we’re on the same page, you’ve changed your position since writing this. Fine if you have. Fine if you haven’t. But if you haven’t, we obviously aren’t on the same page.

“The most frequent command in Scripture is: ‘Do not be afraid!’ Only with Jesus is this possible.” - Michael Reeves

If we’re in agreement that God needs man, in whatever small degree, then we’re substantially on the same page. You will have moved (as I have) from an adamant no to a qualified yes.

Sometimes the answers to those questions make me happy.

I believe God has a plan and needs man (and other pieces) for it to be implemented and accomplished. You don’t. I don’t see how that puts us on the same page. Nevertheless, thank you for your input. It has helped me to think through and solidify what I believe, without requiring you to...

You need to get to work. You have a plan to get to work. Your plan depends on the pieces in order to accomplish your ends. *** Do you think the suggestion that God needs man as a piece of his plan, to accomplish his ends, conveys the idea of weakness in God?

I’ve been talking about it all along. God’s plan, with pieces. No pieces, no plan.

The Bible has much to say about the future of those who belong to Messiah. I view that as a biblical plan - God’s plan - for me / Christians.